SEXIH25-CPO - Self Edge x Iron Heart 19oz Denim CPO Shirt
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@Boit SE specifically calls it reactive dyed on their site. Garment Dyed Black (reactive dyed)
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@CosmoSix5 Good observation. I recall seeing some conflicting statements on the SE pages in past releases. I wonder if this is true as IHUK talked previously about these being "direct dyed"...maybe @kiya or @ShopatIronHeart can verify this for us?
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This has been discussed on these threads already, as pointed out
@SamD said in Self Edge x Iron Heart SEXIH25 Release Party - Los Angeles:
@Mizmazzle As @alex mentioned, we’re hoping to expand our buying guides and blog posts as we continue to develop the new site — and a deep dive into our overdyeing processes is already on the list!
To summarise for now, the switch to a direct dye wasn’t made to intentionally alter the appearance of the denim or how it fades, but rather as an eco-conscious move to reduce our use of more hazardous sulphur dyes. As far as we’re aware, the actual garment dyeing process is very similar, meaning it still removes all potential shrinkage.
Unfortunately, we haven’t been using the new technique long enough to see conclusive fade results, but Haraki-san has advised that the direct dye will be a little more colourfast. Here’s a comparison, with the 21oz direct overdyed denim at the top and the 14oz sulphur-dyed at the bottom:
As you can see, the direct dye will definitely still fade (as it’s already showing variations in tone), but the main difference is how it affects the hardware. The sulphur dye oxidises and tarnishes the rivets and tack button, whereas with the direct dye, the metal remains shiny and new. Hope that's helpful!
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@Alex Thanks for the clarification. That’s what I remember reading. The confusion was due to typo on the Self Edge site:
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@Boit said in SEXIH25-CPO - Self Edge x Iron Heart 19oz Denim CPO Shirt:
@Alex Thanks for the clarification. That’s what I remember reading. The confusion was due to typo on the Self Edge site:
This wasn't a typo.. we were told by Iron Heart they were reactive dyed. We've now changed our product page specs as they've clarified they will fade over time.
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@kiya No worries. And thanks for circling back.
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@kiya said in SEXIH25-CPO - Self Edge x Iron Heart 19oz Denim CPO Shirt:
This wasn't a typo.. we were told by Iron Heart they were reactive dyed. We've now changed our product page specs as they've clarified they will fade over time.
Yeah sorry for confusion. At some point we trialled a reactive OD process, used on some shirts IIRC, and when we were sampling these I thought the same process was used, things changed and somewhere in the ether the dots were not connected
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SE has the nomenclature as SEXIH25-CPOOD…
I hear by declare this shirt is nicknamed the SEX-POOD!
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Should make a thread detailing the new OD method? so we know what we're getting into and what to generally expect.
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@CosmoSix5 if you read about 4 posts above Alex talks about doing just that...on the long list of things.
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Wasn’t really interested in this as waiting for the ib restock but just looked at the OD and it looks awesome though the chest sizing looks off. I would have to jump from XL to XXXL to get same chest and then the shoulders and sleeve would be way out.
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@Alex I got to try on the CPO in the OD last week (on the DL) and it is the greatest thing I've donned. Can't wait to own one!
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@Gavin666 yeah but if I'm not mistaken the OD fabric will stretch out closer to its pre-dyed measurements. Can anyone else chime in?
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@fuzzybunnies, *can stretch out.
If the denim isn’t stressed it won’t change dimensionally. That’s obvious. But practically, I wouldn't assume that, for example, the shirt will get longer from normal wear. -
@Gavin666 I have been trying to figure out the sizing myself (I am interested in the indigo version) and compared Self Edge's measurements on the 292 to the collab cpo. For my size range they are pretty close to each other yet different than the measurements on the Iron Heart site. Based on the different measurements I would guess that a medium in the indigo version would fit similar to a medium in the 292 on me (i.e. as a shacket rather than a shirt).
I think for the best guess, find your size in the 293OD on the Iron Heart site and then see how Self Edge's measurements for the 293OD and the SEXIH25-CPOOD compare. I bought the 293OD in a large as I wanted to wear it as a shacket and based on Self Edge's measurements I would buy the same size in the SEXIH25-CPOOD for the same fit.
I hope this makes sense as I know my explanation is a bit convoluted. Not fool proof by any means but probably a good enough guide assuming that Self Edge's measurements for both the 293OD and the SEXIH25-CPOOD are consistent across those pieces.
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I’m normally a XXL and looking at the OD version.
Having a hard time understanding how most other sizes are around a half inch smaller in the chest, but XXL is reported as 1.5” smaller. This has to be a mis-measurement, right?
I’m pretty certain the XXXL would be too big, but XXL as reported would be too small.
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@Snafu The OD process essentially shrinks the shirt the most it can be shrunk.
So its essentially the same as the non-OD version hot washed and hot dried.
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@lolnah said in SEXIH25-CPO - Self Edge x Iron Heart 19oz Denim CPO Shirt:
@Snafu The OD process essentially shrinks the shirt the most it can be shrunk.
So its essentially the same as the non-OD version hot washed and hot dried.
Being 1.5in smaller than there typical XXL measurement is pretty reasonable/ typical.Yea, I get that, I’m just confused about how that particular seems to have had more shrinkage than every other size. Like how did XXXL only shrink .5 inch while the XXL shrunk 1.5 inch.
It makes zero sense to me.