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Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Live Reveal - Thursday 12th of June at 1700BST

Watches - another OCD problem

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    Graeme
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    Joined: 30 Mar 2012

    The trouble that I have with the Land-Dweller is the price. It's $16K (US) or $24K (Australian). That's about the same as a Glashütte Original SeaQ Panorama Date in steel and gold, or an entry level Fifty Fathoms.

    Like @JDelage, I don't think that it's an ugly watch. It feels a bit derivative. The Tissot PRX looks like a version of the Vacheron Constantin 222, and the Land-Dweller seems to be a copy of these with Rolex garnishes.

    I'm curious where the movement will turn up next. A titanium Explorer fitted with it would be lovely.

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      RobeOfTheMagi
      Haraki san Expert
      Joined: 15 Apr 2024

      @Graeme I think most people spending $16K on a watch really are in the position to just buy all of the above mentioned models. I'm really not sure they are comparing dollars for features or value too much.

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        ARNC
        啓蒙家
        Joined: 13 Dec 2020

        @Graeme tempted me to look at the recent announcements. The two standouts for me are never going to happen - one isn’t even a watch (which won’t surprise some of you)!

        The Cartier Tank à Guichets is beautiful, especially IMO this one:
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        But the real winner for me is this from Patek. I love the combination of horology, silversmithing and enamelling, although I doubt my extended family has enough spare organs to cover the cost!
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        “Every day that you survive you get a free sunset“

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          Graeme
          啓蒙家
          Joined: 30 Mar 2012

          @ARNC my favourite Patek release is the Calatrava 6196P. It's a simple hand wound watch in platinum. I'd get one over the Cubitus, if I had a spare CHF 40K lying around. (The Cubitus is CHF 35K, so slightly cheaper, and far less lovely.)

          Patek 6196P

          Zenith announced the GFJ which is similar (a platinum case, hand wound movement), but a slightly larger case. It's actually more expensive, at CHF 49K.

          Zenith GFJ

          What's really interesting about it is Zenith have resurrected a vintage chronometer movement, the Calibre 135, which they've given a few contemporary twists. It's got a 72-hour power reserve, up from 40 hours, and it's regulated to -2 to +2 sec per day, which is the same as Rolex's Superlative Chronometer rating.

          Zenith Calibre 135

          @RobeOfTheMagi I don't think that buyers will be cross shopping the Zenith and the Patek either!

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            ARNC
            啓蒙家
            @Graeme
            Joined: 13 Dec 2020

            @Graeme the Calatrava is beautiful and definitely more practical than my choice. The GFJ dial doesn’t work for me for some reason (although many of the design elements are up my street), but the movement is definitely interesting.

            “Every day that you survive you get a free sunset“

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              Graeme
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              @ARNC
              Joined: 30 Mar 2012

              @ARNC the GFJ dial looks too fussy, with too many different materials and textures. Zenith could have simplified it, and it would have looked better.

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                mclaincausey
                見習いボス
                Joined: 12 Apr 2013

                Zenith rarely gets it right IMO. The movement isn’t attractive either. Not vibing with the weird engravings.

                But the PP is lovely.

                Think it, be it.

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                  MTpockets
                  @mclaincausey
                  Joined: 11 Jun 2021

                  @mclaincausey - totally agree. The only Zeniths I ever liked were some of the El Primeros and a few of the plane jane Defys that they launched 5 or 6 years ago.

                  The PP is obviously beautiful. They rarely put out anything horrid. But of course they are WAY out of my price range.

                  As far as the new Rolex Land whatever - I applaud the idea but I think they went too far with the dials. They don’t do it for me at all. If that was a basic sunray dial or something else conservative from their archives, maybe I could get behind it. I also think the middle links in the bracelet are also pushing it a bit too into the bling range.

                  They are obviously trying to capture some of the VC and AP market with a reduced price point. But I can’t see AP buyers to even look in Rolex’s direction at this. I could be wrong.

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                    Giles
                    IHUK Crew
                    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                    The Patek gets my vote too....

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      JDelage
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                      Joined: 13 Jan 2012

                      My favorite new release for now is H. Moser's Pop collection, a series of watches using 6 stones in 2-stone dial combos. There are 3 base models (small second, tourbillon, tourbillon + minute repeater) that can be ordered in any of the 6 2-stone combos, so a total of 18 different watches. They're expensive, with the cheapest small second starting at $30k, but beautiful.

                      I'm not sure how to link images (as opposed to upload), but the collection is worth taking a look at here: https://h-moser.com/pop-collection/

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                        JDelage
                        啓蒙家
                        Joined: 13 Jan 2012

                        Nomos has a cool GMT, in a number of colors, which might be the best option in that price range: https://monochrome-watches.com/nomos-club-sport-neomatik-worldtimer-introducing-limited-editions-specs-price/

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                          mclaincausey
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                          Joined: 12 Apr 2013

                          Those Pop don’t do it for me but the Streamliner is one of my favorites.

                          Think it, be it.

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                            PJ
                            Haraki san Student
                            Joined: 6 Jun 2022

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                            Just added another IWC to my small collection. I really dig this generation of aqua timers (and the one before that) Fun story. I went to my local second hand pusher to pick up an old omega that had been serviced . Saw this on the table ready for photoshoot. About to get up for sale. He told me that in 2018 he got an email from the owner if he could sell this watch for him because he never wore it. Yes of course we can. They agreed on a commission price but then he never heard back from him. Until last week. A reply to the same email from 2018 if he could still help him selling it ! Still been in the desk drawer and not worn. So practically unworn from the first owner and for a remarkable good price it’s now in my possession.
                            Cheers 😊

                            Peter 🤙😎

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                              Giles
                              IHUK Crew
                              Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                              That's amazing.....Congrats

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                Anesthetist
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                                Joined: 14 May 2011

                                That’s crazy! Beautiful IWC, wear it in good health

                                IG: bluehandsslim

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                                  chiverus
                                  Haraki san Expert
                                  @PJ
                                  Joined: 5 Jul 2014

                                  @PJ that’s a beauty congrats!

                                  I am off to Japan on Friday for 2 weeks with the family.. am gonna try Nakano Broadway in Tokyo - watch heaven - to search for an Omega Chronostop or vintage Zenith.

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                                    chiverus
                                    Haraki san Expert
                                    @chiverus
                                    Joined: 5 Jul 2014

                                    Last addition, Zenith 1969 Zenith el primero Chronograph a384.

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                                      JDelage
                                      啓蒙家
                                      Joined: 13 Jan 2012

                                      The new Singer Heritage chrono is gor-geous. Powered by a hand-wound Valjoux 236, which is beautiful in its own right. MSRP is 16,700 CHF.

                                      https://singerreimagined.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Singer_heritage_black_1-1024x1024.jpg
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                                      https://singerreimagined.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Singer_heritage_green_2.jpg

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                                        RobeOfTheMagi
                                        Haraki san Expert
                                        @chiverus
                                        Joined: 15 Apr 2024

                                        @chiverus Beautiful.

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                                          PJ
                                          Haraki san Student
                                          Joined: 6 Jun 2022

                                          @chiverus thx mate . That will be exciting for you to go hunting for those . I used to own a chronostop 145.008. Didn’t get much wrist time so ended up selling it . Love the Zenith . Keep us updated if you find something interesting 🤙😊💙

                                          Peter 🤙😎

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