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    • seawolfS
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      @Tago-Mago Right there with you. Woof.

      “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

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      • mclaincauseyM
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        I have no major issues with the B-52s but seeing them listed as Rock and Roll Hall of Fame candidates tickles an old grievance of mine: who the fuck does the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame think they are and what is the logic behind their inclusions and exclusions? If they want to call it the Popular Music Hall of Fame it makes more sense for them to include stuff from unrelated genres, but even so they have really bad taste, knowledge, and judgment.

        It’s just an arbitrary, self-anointed circle jerk and they can all fuck right off.

        See also: The Grammys

        Think it, be it.

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        • seawolfS
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          @mclaincausey You're not wrong. But I guess it begs the question, what is rock and roll? Where is the line drawn? And if there's a band that's dead-center on the rock and roll spectrum, who is it? And how far away from that band at the center can we go before we start getting into pop music or other genres?

          “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

          @zeebeeleather

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          • GardenStateG
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            @seawolf Chuck Berry and everything else was just mediocre in comparison

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            • seawolfS
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              @GardenState Led Zeppelin is mediocre? See what I mean? Where is the line?

              “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

              @zeebeeleather

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              • Tago MagoT
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                @mclaincausey the Hall of Fame used to be a personal pet project for a small group of people playing favourites for the bands they like. It was never about objectively looking at the merits of any band, regardless of the genre they're playing.

                It’s just an arbitrary, self-anointed circle jerk and they can all fuck right off.

                This summarizes it perfectly

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                • seawolfS
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                  Related, popular music can fuck right off. It's music designed in a lab and it lacks soul. I'm not saying pop music is easy to write. It's not. Writing a catchy song and engineering it to sound exactly right takes a lot of skill and talent. But it sounds like music written for the sole purpose of making money, and the billions of people who rely heavily on pop music baffle me.

                  “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

                  @zeebeeleather

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                  • GardenStateG
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                    @seawolf You have a point but I wouldn't call them rock and roll they're more like hard rock and the precursor to heavy metal. I think rock and roll is kind of an antiquated term that probably thematically died after the 50s.

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                    • seawolfS
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                      @GardenState Interesting take! I always think of Black Sabbath as the precursor to heavy metal. But I guess that's why this conversation is in the Unpopular Opinions thread 😂

                      “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

                      @zeebeeleather

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                      • mclaincauseyM
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                        Yeah rock and roll is a very specific genre mostly from the 40s and 50s that seeded a number of genres.

                        Rock Music as a genre would incorporate things like rockabilly, R&B, hard rock, metal, etc. it’s just not an accurate name and indicative that these aren’t really serious music people regardless of being serious music industry people. However how do you handle Run DMC and Aerosmith or Anthrax and Public Enemy or Herbie Hancock Rockit under that banner? My answer is you don’t. You call it popular music and then you include the mainstream popular artists of the time regardless of genre.

                        I completely agree that it is difficult to determine the boundaries of genres, which is one reason why I think it was stupid for them to attach a narrow genre to the project. Also, probably hard to believe based on what I’ve said here, I don’t think genre is really important in terms of labeling things. I do think the traditions underlying musical genres are important and to be preserved. I love artists who confound genre and can incorporate various genres seamlessly, or even distinctly, into what they do.

                        My issue is being perhaps too particular about semantics. I like truth in advertising.

                        Think it, be it.

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                          I’m probably going to get destroyed for this…. But I find 100% cotton jeans uncomfortable. I need some amount of stretch in my pants. I unfortunately discovered this after buying probably 50-100 pair of Selvedge denim trying to figure out what fit would work for me.

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                          • seawolfS
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                            @phillyforager you just stated an unpopular opinion in the Unpopular Opinions thread. You’re not going to get destroyed for that here. You made a comment that supports the theme of the thread. Thank you for staying on-topic!

                            “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

                            @zeebeeleather

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                            • jordanscollectedJ
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                              @phillyforager did the IH Shinayaka work for you?

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                              • mclaincauseyM
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                                Also some weaves are more forgiving than others. I haven’t tried shinayaka but I’ve had loose woven jeans that had an elastic stretch quality to them.

                                Think it, be it.

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                                  @phillyforager did you try lighter weight denims like the iron heart 14oz? Or other brands that offer 12-14oz denims? I have a 555 14oz in rotation and it really feels stretchy. Whole different world compared to 21oz and above.

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                                  • chrisjohnnickC
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                                    @endo was out for lunch with a buddy the day he died, and he was talking about how great eraserhead was. I watched it that night and thought, wow this is the worst movie I have ever seen.

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                                    • endoE
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                                      hahaha, see everybody! TBH his filmography even for me was interesting, sometimes beautiful. But the stories are such a crap, at least IMO. Horrible, like finding out after 30 or so episodes that Laura Palmer was raped and killed by her father, who was possessed by a demon. An positive exception in my eyes is 'The Elephant Man', but that may be due to John Hurt and the other cast.

                                      si tacuisses

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                                      • pechelmanP
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                                        Eraserhead is certainly polarizing. It's like watching an actual nightmare about becoming and being a parent. Have to be in the mood for it and it's not something one casually watches.

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                                          Wait what the hell, last time I checked IH didn’t make any jeans with stretch. When did these bad boys come out?! My mind is blown lol

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                                            @chbronsonx I have tried lighter weight stuff from other makers, there is something about the lack of stretch that sort of hurts my knees and back when I’m moving around or sitting.

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