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    Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Live Reveal - Thursday 12th of June at 1700BST

    IHJ-136-BLK - Waterproof Jacket - Black

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    • long_john86L
      long_john86
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      Any advice on sizing for this @Ross / IH Crew hive mind?
      I own absolutely nothing that is even remotely like it (hence my beady eye on it).
      Would like to size it to wear over a shirt/flannel, which then should also cover me for over a tee if required.

      • 90% of my IH shirts are XXL (a few XXXLs)
      • IHM-34 M51 in XL
      • IHM-35 N1 in XXL
      • IHSW-10’s in XL
        All of the above either regular or relaxed fit.
        Any thoughts?
        If it comes to it I’ll just order 2 sizes and send one back...

      6'4". Wingspan of Phelps.

      WTB:
      IHSH-399-ORA - Tag XXL
      IHSH-260-PPL - Tag XXXL
      IH-888S-SLBod - Tag 36

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      • ARNCA
        ARNC
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        @long_john86 in the hope it helps, the measurements for this (except length) are pretty close to those on the IHJ-131-RED I bought earlier this year. The measurements on that confused me too but I went with my most common size in work shirts. When the crew share what size they wear, that should confirm - my usual reference guys and some who sometimes size down relative to me were all going with the size I thought I needed.

        “Every day that you survive you get a free sunset“

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        • long_john86L
          long_john86
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          @ARNC Thanks for this, really useful. Means I can look at the thread for that jacket as well 👍
          As I am staring out of the window watching the rain come smashing down I am reminded what an absolutely essential jacket this will be… ‘grim up nurth’ n all that.
          We have that really annoying rain that soaks you through as well 😆

          6'4". Wingspan of Phelps.

          WTB:
          IHSH-399-ORA - Tag XXL
          IHSH-260-PPL - Tag XXXL
          IH-888S-SLBod - Tag 36

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          • RossR
            Ross
            IHUK Crew
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            Model Sam B wears a Large

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            AJ wears a Small
            Ben and Bailey wear a Medium
            Graham wears a Large
            Ross wears a XXXL

            You can view the crew's vitals here

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            • RossR
              Ross
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              @long_john86 ^ Looks like this is a 'same as normal' or size down for most of the crew. Hope that's helpful!

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              • BoitB
                Boit
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                @Ross How thick is this shell? Does it compare to 2 or 3L Gore? or is it more substantial like the IHJ-80? RN I’m thinking of grabbing this in Medium (one size down from my usual ‘large’ IH jacket). Is there a lot of variance these dimensions? Any idea what size Johnny would take? Thanks for the help.

                WTB: IHJ-118-BLK/OLV XL, IHM-34-BLK L, IHSH-297-IND L, IHSH-399-ORA XL, IHWF-001-PUR L, IHSH-366-IND L

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                • AlexA
                  Alex
                  IHUK Crew
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                  @Boit said in IHJ-136-BLK - Waterproof Jacket - Black:

                  Does it compare to 2 or 3L Gore?
                  We call this triple layer, so I guess like 3L Gore, but im not a technical fabric buff, so I may misunderstand you.

                  or is it more substantial like the IHJ-80?

                  No, its way less substantial than the IHJ-80, in part due to it being unlined. @Giles has both, and may be able to do you side by side comparisons tomorrow when he wakes up

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                  • BoitB
                    Boit
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                    @Alex
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                    @Alex Thank you.🙏 much appreciated

                    WTB: IHJ-118-BLK/OLV XL, IHM-34-BLK L, IHSH-297-IND L, IHSH-399-ORA XL, IHWF-001-PUR L, IHSH-366-IND L

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                    • AlexA
                      Alex
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                      @Boit no worries. Also, I own a IHJ-80, and whilst I dont have it here in Philly, nor do i have the IHJ-136, from memory they are completley different beasts. The IHJ-80 feels like a standalone jacket that i wear over a tee, this feels like a shell i would wear over warm clothes in a cold storm, for eg

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                      • BoitB
                        Boit
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                        Thanks for that description. That’s what I was hoping to hear and confirms what I am seeing/expecting.

                        WTB: IHJ-118-BLK/OLV XL, IHM-34-BLK L, IHSH-297-IND L, IHSH-399-ORA XL, IHWF-001-PUR L, IHSH-366-IND L

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                        • long_john86L
                          long_john86
                          Iron Heart Deity
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                          @Alex this is really useful info and partly why I’m considering not sizing down on this - ideally it would be able to be thrown over say a flannel and CPO combo as a waterproof ‘layer’. Still can’t quite make my mind up though…

                          @ross @Alex Any chance of a photo or two of it over some core items in the same tag size? E.g. the 33 / 232 / 292 / 293? Just to get a feel of how it falls/sits over a shirt - and also to get a feel of the length in comparison to westerns of the same tag size. No worries if not.

                          6'4". Wingspan of Phelps.

                          WTB:
                          IHSH-399-ORA - Tag XXL
                          IHSH-260-PPL - Tag XXXL
                          IH-888S-SLBod - Tag 36

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                          • GilesG
                            Giles
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                            It is super thin and smooth Completely different from the IHJ-80. It's designed as a superlightweight "emergency" waterproof layer, and yes it is slightly oversized for that reason. I wore the sample L over all sorts of other stuff in Morocco.

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            • GilesG
                              Giles
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                              Large IHJ-136-BLK - 435 gms
                              Large IHJ-80-BLK - 1,372 gms

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              • GrahamG
                                Graham
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                                @long_john86

                                You will be happy with an XL or XXL - Use sleeve length to determine between the two.

                                @gmac_ironheart
                                🤘

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                                • long_john86L
                                  long_john86
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                                  @Graham Cheers mate!

                                  6'4". Wingspan of Phelps.

                                  WTB:
                                  IHSH-399-ORA - Tag XXL
                                  IHSH-260-PPL - Tag XXXL
                                  IH-888S-SLBod - Tag 36

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                                  • GilesG
                                    Giles
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                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    • GilesG
                                      Giles
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                                      Additional observations.

                                      It is very windproof, but unless you are exerting yourself, it adds zero warmth.
                                      If you are wearing it just over a t-shirt in the rain, it is a little unnerving (until you get used to it), because it feels like it is leaking, but that is just the coolth of the rain effectively next to you skin.
                                      The hood is large (designed to go over a helmet), so in the wind, it flaps around.

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      • BoitB
                                        Boit
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                                        It looks as though this is the same (or similar) as other three layer PTFE waterproof membranes such as gore-tex. What is important about these fabrics (“shells”) is that they let moisture out of the garment while preventing wind and rain to enter. It’s like a one way valve for moisture. Allowing water vapor to escape the garment is critical for keeping you dry and thus warm. This textile technology has been around for quite some time and is what is worn by almost all outdoor enthusiasts here in the PNW.

                                        WTB: IHJ-118-BLK/OLV XL, IHM-34-BLK L, IHSH-297-IND L, IHSH-399-ORA XL, IHWF-001-PUR L, IHSH-366-IND L

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                                        • RossR
                                          Ross
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                                          NOW LIVE

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                                          • BoitB
                                            Boit
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                                            This is an excellent jacket! Exceeds my expectations. Gonna be a quiver killer for me when I travel. Cut tags off 15mins after signing off UPS. Feels more like 2.5Layer (Paclite) Goretex. Which is perfect for how I want to use this: everyday streetwear and some light adventuring. IMHO, 3L has less year-round utility.

                                            @Bailey, Thanks for helping me get the right one. 👍To Medium.

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                                            WTB: IHJ-118-BLK/OLV XL, IHM-34-BLK L, IHSH-297-IND L, IHSH-399-ORA XL, IHWF-001-PUR L, IHSH-366-IND L

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