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IHJ-79-BLK - Primaloft® Gold Quilted Riders Jacket - Black

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    cityofdelusion
    Joined: 1 Jun 2018

    Thanks for your time and answer. Yeah that makes sense, I'll wash at 40° or below.

    The idea behind my initial question was that I usually wash my clothes at or above 60°C to ensure that bacteria are killed since to my knowledge, most bacteria die at or above temperatures of 60°C. Maybe that mainly applies to organic fabrics (e.g., cotton, linen etc.) though rather than synthetic fabrics such as nylon and polyester. Therefore washing synthetic fabrics at higher temperatures perhaps isn't even necessary and could even cause the nylon or the Primaloft fibers to melt and the jacket to lose it's longevity and functionality. Since it has become somewhat of a habit for me to wash at rather high temperatures, I wanted inquire and research the potential risks and consequences of particularly this jacket being washed at higher temperatures.

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      jischwar
      Raw and Unwashed
      @cityofdelusion
      Joined: 10 Sept 2019

      @cityofdelusion it's actually the dryer that kills bacteria, water doesn't get hot enough in the machine

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        cityofdelusion
        @jischwar
        Joined: 1 Jun 2018

        @jischwar Do you have a source for that? I'd like to read more about it.

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          jischwar
          Raw and Unwashed
          @cityofdelusion
          Joined: 10 Sept 2019

          @cityofdelusion https://time.com/4676920/washing-machine-germs/

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            Giles
            IHUK Crew
            Joined: 22 Sept 2009

            Personally, within reason, I love being exposed to germs. I work on the basis that building up tolerance is a good thing. The sickly kids at school were always the ones who took cleanliness too seriously.....

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              jischwar
              Raw and Unwashed
              @Giles
              Joined: 10 Sept 2019

              @Giles yeah, I'm not actively trying to kill germs in my clothes. Think it's pretty rare to get sick from stuff lingering on your clothes vs someone coughing on you, but to each their own

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                SKT
                見習いボス
                @Giles
                Joined: 26 Aug 2019

                @Giles I had a retail/customer service business for many years and worked with the public handling money and having loads of face to face interactions. My immune system was incredibly strong during that time and I was rarely sick. Agree with you 100% Now once we had kids everything changed cause they’re walking Petri dishes and you can’t avoid the menagerie of shit they bring home.

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                  cityofdelusion
                  Joined: 1 Jun 2018

                  I'm not a microbiologist, so I cannot and wouldn't want to comment on the advantages and disadvantages of bacteria. I'm also not a germophobe nor do I have contamination OCD and the like, so I also don't want to comment on the extent of how sanitary other people like to keep themselves, their households or clothing 🙂

                  @jischwar Thank you for posting the newspaper article as your source. The article consists of a short summary of the findings of a research study on more contagious bacteria and virus such as, for example, the question of whether the fecal residue in the underwear of a sick person could contaminate the clothing of a healthy person if they both washed their clothes in the same washing machine (TL;DR: yes). This is not equivalent, however, to interpreting the results as "dryers actually killing bacteria" compared to washing machines. Perhaps it would be more correct to speak of killing "more" bacteria, but not of "actually".

                  In fact, I researched and read the actual study mentioned in the very newspaper article you shared and it states that the use of detergents and higher temperatures (read: at 60°C or above which is how I wash some of my stuff) can contribute to killing bacteria more efficiently, just not necessarily every/all sorts of bacteria, of course. As far as I could see, the newspaper article (as well as the study) doesn't mention explicitly that washing machines "don't get hot enough" to kill bacteria. In fact, the study didn't even examine washing machine cycles with temperatures above 60°C and concluded that varying temperatures, detergents, fabrics, duration of wash cycles and etc. could all affect the killing of (various) bacteria. The research paper was an interesting read overall.

                  That's it from me regarding the bacteria discussion. Back to focusing on this great jacket.

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                    organisys
                    Raw and Unwashed
                    @organisys
                    Joined: 24 Mar 2015

                    @organisys said in IHJ-79-BLK - Primaloft® Gold Quilted Riders Jacket - Black:

                    I like this, but no right now.  😞

                    However the IH jackets are underrated. The Jeans, UHF, the Vests, everyone raves about, but the Jacket quality is phenomenal, they are practically bomb proof.

                    I've had an IHJ-45 for several years now….looks new after a wipe down.  😎

                    Trigger pulled, Yes I played the long game 😉

                    Hope everyone is doing well!

                    Pride of Japan :-)

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                      weftyarn
                      Iron Heart Deity
                      Joined: 8 Nov 2020
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                        motojobobo
                        啓蒙家
                        Joined: 22 Aug 2015

                        My 79 is up for repairs after 5 years of stellar service. On my last 34 day (10500 km) bike trip, the zipper started giving me trouble. Problem pops up as I try to zip up.
                        The backing behind the male side of the zipper has lost rigidity, become floppy and has a tough time being coaxed all the way down to ensure the teeth on both sides line up to ensure the zipping up process.
                        A plasticky/whitish coating has become damaged/degraded/peeled and thus the loss of rigidity. Don’t have my 79 with me on this trip but I’ll get pics once I am back home to clarify the issue.
                        In the meantime I wanted to ask the brotherhood of 79-followers whether anyone else has experienced anything like it.

                        The journey is the objective.

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                          Giles
                          IHUK Crew
                          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                          My zip corroded because it gets dunked in salt water regularly.....But, until then, I had no issues in a few years of wear....

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            sabergirl
                            見習いボス
                            Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                            My 79 is still strong, but primaloft 08 that I have has a failing zip. The plasticky part on the male half of the zip is cracked and worn, which causes the zipper to have a hard time getting seated and engaged. Sounds like the same problem. I’ve always assumed I will eventually have to replace the whole zipper.

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                              krebsy
                              Haraki san Student
                              Joined: 12 Nov 2021

                              Sometimes a very small amount of gorilla glue or similar applied carefully can help with failing reinforcement tape. You can't make it too though thick or it won't fit in the zipper.

                              Looks like denim truly is the fabric of our salvation.

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                                motojobobo
                                啓蒙家
                                Joined: 22 Aug 2015

                                @sabergirl your 08 case sounds identical to mine on the 79.
                                I wouldn’t trust a local tailor to replace the entire zipper. I’d be wary of ending up with a messy pair of plackets…
                                @krebsy you got the name of the failing part, reinforcement tape, nailed down. Thanks. I like your suggestion re: gorilla glue. Happy to try that when I’m back.

                                The journey is the objective.

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