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    Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Live Reveal - Thursday 12th of June at 1700BST

    IHJ-79-BLK - Primaloft® Gold Quilted Riders Jacket - Black

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    • cityofdelusionC
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      @flannel-slut I've been wanting this jacket (especially an iteration with a hoodie) for a long time now as my "obsession" with this product thread will surely also suggest. At first, a while ago, I had bought a tag size small which I experienced the fit issues with that I described earlier in this thread. But with you being braver than most of us, going for a size up and trying one last time motivated me to the same. And so I began to contemplate hard like always when I'm interested in an IH product that I know I will eventually somehow end up getting... sigh.

      Anyway, very recently, I found someone selling one of these secondhand in a size up (tag size medium). And the price was way too good to resist another "one last try". So I just had to get it and try "one last time". The fit with this one is noticeably better in the problem areas, albeit the length of the jacket and the sleeve length having increased outside my usually preferred measurements, nevertheless not being too long to the point that the jacket would look oversized and goofy on me if that makes sense. Even if I wish the overall length and sleeve length were slightly shorter, I can now layer a T-Shirt, a wool pullover and even an IH hoodie under this one which increased the utility of this jacket a lot, making it my go-to jacket for the time being (i.e., until the weather gets gradually warmer so I can wear all of my other IH Type III jackets and SB leather jacket). I have yet another IH jacket that I now added to my arsenal and probably not enough lifetime to enjoy all of them 😂 🤦

      TL;DR: Yep, I sized up.

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      • flannel slutF
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        @cityofdelusion respect the devotion! And the sickness?? Making me second guess returning mine hearing how you layer yours.

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        • cityofdelusionC
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          As it stands, the takeaway from my experiences and trials for anyone who might go through the same dilemma as I did whether to get the next size up is: If the armpit and/or the upper arm area is tight, it can be fixed by going for a size up as long as you think you'll be fine with the slightly increased overall length of the jacket and the sleeve length. Sounds obvious, but since those problem areas will only marginally relax with the next size up (which is because of the pattern and design of the jacket), only do this if you really want this jacket and think you'll end up obsessing if you don't have it.

          @flannel-slut And if - as in your case, if I recall correctly - the midsection/opening is too baggy..... drink more beer? No, but in all seriousness, wearing your Primaloft vest could prevent having additional bulk in the armpit area while increasing the bulk needed in the midsection/opening areas. Double Primaloft FTW I guess 🤔

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          • flannel slutF
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            @cityofdelusion double Prima is tempting. Imagine Primaloft bottoms in a “sweatpants cut” for the Prima Tux? Joking, not joking

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            • cityofdelusionC
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              Only downside I see is that I imagine you'd pretty much sound like a bag of chips when you walk with all that nylon outer.

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                @cityofdelusion I’m happy to see that it’s improving.

                I also started to fix mine myself but I quickly realized it would be a time consuming effort. I think I paid about $5 to let a professional do it. It saved me lots of time and came back looking perfect. It was definitely worth the money I spent.

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                • cityofdelusionC
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                  What's the highest temperature this jacket can be washed at? I was thinking of washing it at 60°C-90°C (without spin this time) from now on, but I'm not sure if the jacket (Nylon/Polyester/Primaloft) would be damaged at all in the process.

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                  • GilesG
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                    Why do you need to wash it that hot? You'll just give the fabric and garment more stress than at 40 or so....

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                    • cityofdelusionC
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                      Thanks for your time and answer. Yeah that makes sense, I'll wash at 40° or below.

                      The idea behind my initial question was that I usually wash my clothes at or above 60°C to ensure that bacteria are killed since to my knowledge, most bacteria die at or above temperatures of 60°C. Maybe that mainly applies to organic fabrics (e.g., cotton, linen etc.) though rather than synthetic fabrics such as nylon and polyester. Therefore washing synthetic fabrics at higher temperatures perhaps isn't even necessary and could even cause the nylon or the Primaloft fibers to melt and the jacket to lose it's longevity and functionality. Since it has become somewhat of a habit for me to wash at rather high temperatures, I wanted inquire and research the potential risks and consequences of particularly this jacket being washed at higher temperatures.

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                        @cityofdelusion it's actually the dryer that kills bacteria, water doesn't get hot enough in the machine

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                        • cityofdelusionC
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                          @jischwar Do you have a source for that? I'd like to read more about it.

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                            @cityofdelusion https://time.com/4676920/washing-machine-germs/

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                            • GilesG
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                              Personally, within reason, I love being exposed to germs. I work on the basis that building up tolerance is a good thing. The sickly kids at school were always the ones who took cleanliness too seriously.....

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                @Giles yeah, I'm not actively trying to kill germs in my clothes. Think it's pretty rare to get sick from stuff lingering on your clothes vs someone coughing on you, but to each their own

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                                • SKTS
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                                  @Giles I had a retail/customer service business for many years and worked with the public handling money and having loads of face to face interactions. My immune system was incredibly strong during that time and I was rarely sick. Agree with you 100% Now once we had kids everything changed cause they’re walking Petri dishes and you can’t avoid the menagerie of shit they bring home.

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                                  • cityofdelusionC
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                                    I'm not a microbiologist, so I cannot and wouldn't want to comment on the advantages and disadvantages of bacteria. I'm also not a germophobe nor do I have contamination OCD and the like, so I also don't want to comment on the extent of how sanitary other people like to keep themselves, their households or clothing 🙂

                                    @jischwar Thank you for posting the newspaper article as your source. The article consists of a short summary of the findings of a research study on more contagious bacteria and virus such as, for example, the question of whether the fecal residue in the underwear of a sick person could contaminate the clothing of a healthy person if they both washed their clothes in the same washing machine (TL;DR: yes). This is not equivalent, however, to interpreting the results as "dryers actually killing bacteria" compared to washing machines. Perhaps it would be more correct to speak of killing "more" bacteria, but not of "actually".

                                    In fact, I researched and read the actual study mentioned in the very newspaper article you shared and it states that the use of detergents and higher temperatures (read: at 60°C or above which is how I wash some of my stuff) can contribute to killing bacteria more efficiently, just not necessarily every/all sorts of bacteria, of course. As far as I could see, the newspaper article (as well as the study) doesn't mention explicitly that washing machines "don't get hot enough" to kill bacteria. In fact, the study didn't even examine washing machine cycles with temperatures above 60°C and concluded that varying temperatures, detergents, fabrics, duration of wash cycles and etc. could all affect the killing of (various) bacteria. The research paper was an interesting read overall.

                                    That's it from me regarding the bacteria discussion. Back to focusing on this great jacket.

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                                    • organisysO
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                                      @organisys said in IHJ-79-BLK - Primaloft® Gold Quilted Riders Jacket - Black:

                                      I like this, but no right now.  😞

                                      However the IH jackets are underrated. The Jeans, UHF, the Vests, everyone raves about, but the Jacket quality is phenomenal, they are practically bomb proof.

                                      I've had an IHJ-45 for several years now….looks new after a wipe down.  😎

                                      Trigger pulled, Yes I played the long game 😉

                                      Hope everyone is doing well!

                                      Pride of Japan :-)

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                                        • motojoboboM
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                                          My 79 is up for repairs after 5 years of stellar service. On my last 34 day (10500 km) bike trip, the zipper started giving me trouble. Problem pops up as I try to zip up.
                                          The backing behind the male side of the zipper has lost rigidity, become floppy and has a tough time being coaxed all the way down to ensure the teeth on both sides line up to ensure the zipping up process.
                                          A plasticky/whitish coating has become damaged/degraded/peeled and thus the loss of rigidity. Don’t have my 79 with me on this trip but I’ll get pics once I am back home to clarify the issue.
                                          In the meantime I wanted to ask the brotherhood of 79-followers whether anyone else has experienced anything like it.

                                          The journey is the objective.

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                                          • GilesG
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                                            My zip corroded because it gets dunked in salt water regularly.....But, until then, I had no issues in a few years of wear....

                                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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