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    • T4920T
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      I'm curious, and unsure exactly how to phrase this question, but can anybody explain the differences in weaving methods that lead to the patterns on IH flannels to be visible on the inside and outside of the fabric, but not so on a flannel such as this one by Visvim?

      I assume it's akin to the idea of warp/weft yarns in denim twill, but confused as to why more of the white doesn't show through on the outer face of the fabric.

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      “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

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      • GilesG
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        I reckon that Visvim flannel is a double weave....I think it is a twill on the face and a plain weave on the reverse.

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        • T4920T
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          @Giles as in, two layers of fabric sewn together, or like the 10oz Sawtooth one IH dropped last season?

          “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

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          • T4920T
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            @Giles said in Random questions to which you seek an answer:

            I think it is a twill on the face and a plain weave on the reverse.

            Thanks Giles, that edit answered my question!

            I was hoping you'd be the one to answer 😆

            “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

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            • GilesG
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              Like this but sort of in reverse...

              https://www.ironheart.co.uk/tops/IHSH-368-IND.html

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              • T4920T
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                @Giles any experience with Visvim?
                Eyed this on eBay, and thought it looked nice.
                Based on the price point I'd assume it to be top quality, but you can never be sure...

                “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

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                • jordanscollectedJ
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                  @T4920 @Alex is a big Visvim fan, he may be able to weigh in better.

                  world tours:
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                  • AlexA
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                    I wouldn't say I was a big fan, I don't own any and never have. I do respect some of what they have done, absolutely. Their quality is good, but you are also paying for more of a high street brand's brand name with Visvim more than you are with the likes of PBJ/Fullcount/Samurai/IH etc

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                    • jordanscollectedJ
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                      @Alex I could have swore you had listed Visvim as one of your favorite non-IH brands.

                      I've been unjustly judging you in my head for a long time now...

                      world tours:
                      888 Fat guy chocolate WT
                      Mad Red x2
                      Wabidashery

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                      • goosehdG
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                        @jordanscollected ...almost time to put the foot in mouth quote back in your signature... 🙂

                        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                        • jordanscollectedJ
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                          @goosehd I'll wait until it piles on a bit more.

                          world tours:
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                          • GilesG
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                            @T4920 said in Random questions to which you seek an answer:

                            @Giles any experience with Visvim?

                            Ask me at the party.....

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            • neph93N
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                              @Giles 😃 😃 😃

                              “Some of those that work forces
                              Are the same that burn crosses”

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                              • T4920T
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                                @Giles noted, now I'm curious!

                                “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

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                                • neph93N
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                                  @T4920 plausible denial necessary…

                                  “Some of those that work forces
                                  Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                  • GilesG
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                                    Exactly

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    • AlexA
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                                      I'm, pretty sure Nakamura san won't be initiating court proceedings based on something negtive says online about his brand.

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                                      • GilesG
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                                        Actually, was not going to say anything negative.....

                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                        • RobeOfTheMagiR
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                                          Does 21oz denim fade the slowest compared to all other IH denim fabrics?

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                                            @RobeOfTheMagi i don’t think particularly slow but more vintage vibes so less contrast. At least that’s what i would say! 14oz goes slower imo. But it’s just all how hard you go on them and what you’re after

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