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    • neph93N
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      @steelworker these are my favourite lapses.

      “Some of those that work forces
      Are the same that burn crosses”

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      • goosehdG
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        Matter can not be created nor destroyed, only changed - The Law of Conservation of Mass.

        A 21 oz yard of denim will shrink when washed to a density of 23 oz but a smaller area. To have one yard of 23 oz material you will need to start with a bigger 21 oz of material in the beginning as its density increases as it shrinks.

        I believe @motojobobo and @Jett129 are both correct, if I’m reading their responses correctly.

        Hopefully my response makes some sense.

        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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        • MizmazzleM
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          Perhaps this is oversimplifying the answer, but I know the anniversary UHF was slightly heavier in weight due to the over dying of a light gray. Perhaps the same is true for the OD 21oz denim?

          In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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          • goosehdG
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            @Mizmazzle Is your question: If you have two identical yards of fabric in both weight and density, does it change the weight of one of them if it’s over-dyed?

            "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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            • MizmazzleM
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              @goosehd essentially. I’ve noticed my new 666 21oz SBGs are noticeably lighter than my year old 888 21oz ODs. Thought it was interesting so I posted here wondering what people thought.

              In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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              • goosehdG
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                @Mizmazzle So you have two different cuts and two different treatments with the only common variable being that the density of the material is 21 oz per yard.

                So are you asking about the weight difference between the two pairs or a density difference between the two fabrics?

                "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                • motojoboboM
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                  @goosehd said in Random questions to which you seek an answer:

                  Matter can not be created nor destroyed, only changed - The Law of Conservation of Mass.

                  A 21 oz yard of denim will shrink when washed to a density of 23 oz but a smaller area. To have one yard of 23 oz material you will need to start with a bigger 21 oz of material in the beginning as its density increases as it shrinks.

                  I believe @motojobobo and @Jett129 are both correct, if I’m reading their responses correctly.

                  Hopefully my response makes some sense.

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                  • MizmazzleM
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                    I was just curious about how the fabric feels heavier with more of a drape on the OD compared to the SBG.

                    In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                    • goosehdG
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                      @Mizmazzle So you’re making the observation that OD is denser in feel and appearance than SBG, and you’re wondering if anyone else has noticed it?

                      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                      • neph93N
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                        Denim is the tits. That is all.

                        “Some of those that work forces
                        Are the same that burn crosses”

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                        • goosehdG
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                          @neph93 Which ones are you talking about?

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                          "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                          • MizmazzleM
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                            It was just supposed to be a fun topic to discuss if others feel the weight of the OD fabric feels heavier than the SBG. My first SBG so I was curious.

                            In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                            • goosehdG
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                              Ok, I’m checking out on this one…

                              "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                              • MizmazzleM
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                                @neph93 I agree 100%!! I just love talking about it in all it’s nuances!!

                                In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                                  I have a pair of the OG 777XHS and a pair of the Pronto XHS jeans,and I’d swear that the Prontos are different,ever so slightly lighter than the OG 777s. Who knows what happened the day that each of these denims was woven. It’s like you have 2 kids,exact same DNA,but different as night and day,and both equally great in their own right.

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                                  • GilesG
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                                    @motojobobo said in Random questions to which you seek an answer:

                                    My understanding of the 21/23 oz UHR beefing up is that it occurs on fabric on a ‘per area’ basis. Since your pair of jeans probably shrunk after the wash, I doubt they would become heavier jeans.

                                    @motojobobo is correct and that is also why the anny Ultra Heavy Flannel is heavier per square yard. Overdyeing also causes shrinkage, so more cotton is in a square yard.....

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    • goosehdG
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                                      @neph93 said in Random questions to which you seek an answer:

                                      Denim is the tits. That is all.

                                      I’m also a fan of boobies:

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                                      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                      • NocturamaN
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                                        @goosehd - childish…
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                                        😂

                                        #JustStopCrocs

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                                        • neph93N
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                                          Silly rabbits… not birds. Gorgeous perfectly formed TITS!

                                          Like these:

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                                          “Some of those that work forces
                                          Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                          • goosehdG
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                                            @neph93 We all look like that. It’s just lighting, angles, special lenses, genetics, commitment, time, money, steroids, not drinking beer, not eating cheeseburgers, donairs, kebabs, and pizza

                                            Feck it, I’ll never look like that… 😞

                                            "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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