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21oz Shinayaka Selvedge Denim

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    Giles
    IHUK Crew
    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

    @spitfiredealer:

    So when is this going to be available?

    SS21

    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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      grassfedyogi
      Joined: 19 Jul 2020

      @Giles:

      Let me elaborate.

      Haraki has been developing this new denim for 3 years.  Until he had got the amount of flex he was looking for and the look and feel of our signature 21oz indigo selvedge denim, he just kept on trying.

      So please be open minded about it, we are not selling out.

      As one of the newer IH fans, I absolutely do not see this as selling out. Most top-tier Japanese brands already have stretch denim. The truth is H-san could have rolled out any odd stretch denim out there, slap the IH brand on, stuff enough material to make sure it's 21oz+ (so it can be called 'heavyweight') and I'm pretty sure those jeans will fly out the door. IH could have made some fast money if it wanted to, but the fact that H-san spent 3 years developing his own version of IH-stretch gives me confidence that this will be one of the best stretch denim out there. It may not suite everyone, each to their own. But I've certainly got this pencil down for 2021  😎

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        Giles
        IHUK Crew
        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

        This is one of my favourites…

        A couple of months prior, I'd asked Haraki to make the indigo/indigo 18oz denim.  We were in Bangkok for the Pronto Denum Carnival, and were in the hotel restaurant on the first night.

        Haraki - "Ive made the new denim you asked for"
        Giles - "Wow, great.  What's it like"
        Haraki - "Well, I think you'll like it"

        A couple of years later he decided he liked it too, and released it in Japan…

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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          teddyjay
          Raw and Unwashed
          Joined: 19 Jun 2020

          @Giles:

          @grassfedyogi:

          Giles - an crazy idea, any thought to write a book in the future?

          I can't write  😃 😃

          But thanks for the kind words, that means a lot to me…..

          I’m sure a picture book would suffice 😉

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            neph93
            見習いボス
            Joined: 18 Aug 2014

            @grassfedyogi:

            Giles - an crazy idea, any thought to write a book in the future? This sort of anecdotal exchanges, between yourself and Haraki san, is what drew me to IH initially. A (otherwise) unlikely partnership that somehow brings the best of both worlds…would love to hear more if possible.

            The idea to write a brand history occurred to me a while back… one day I’ll do it. Great excuse to go to Japan. And Gosport. Of course going to Gosport without an good reason is grounds for being sectioned.

            “Some of those that work forces
            Are the same that burn crosses”

            • Virginia Woolf
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              neph93
              見習いボス
              Joined: 18 Aug 2014

              @spitfiredealer:

              Come on get one up. In these times we need as many laughs as possible  😉

              You know how I occasionally wear jeans that are a little tight for me… you may get to see that again soon.  Good enough? [emoji1]

              “Some of those that work forces
              Are the same that burn crosses”

              • Virginia Woolf
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                grassfedyogi
                Joined: 19 Jul 2020

                @Giles:

                This is one of my favourites…

                A couple of months prior, I'd asked Haraki to make the indigo/indigo 18oz denim.  We were in Bangkok for the Pronto Denum Carnival, and were in the hotel restaurant on the first night.

                Haraki - "Ive made the new denim you asked for"
                Giles - "Wow, great.  What's it like"
                Haraki - "Well, I think you'll like it"

                A couple of years later he decided he liked it too, and released it in Japan…

                I'm going to guess H-san actually liked it from the get go, but thought he would wait a few years and hoped that you won't notice… 😃 😃

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                  grassfedyogi
                  Joined: 19 Jul 2020

                  @neph93:

                  @grassfedyogi:

                  Giles - an crazy idea, any thought to write a book in the future? This sort of anecdotal exchanges, between yourself and Haraki san, is what drew me to IH initially. A (otherwise) unlikely partnership that somehow brings the best of both worlds…would love to hear more if possible.

                  The idea to write a brand history occurred to me a while back… one day I’ll do it. Great excuse to go to Japan. And Gosport. Of course going to Gosport without an good reason is grounds for being sectioned.

                  When's the next brand anniversary? 20th? 30th? I think it would be fun to make this into an anniversary project, and research should start now :D. There you go @neph93 I've found a reason for you.

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                    Giles
                    IHUK Crew
                    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                    The 20th anniversary is in 2023.

                    Thanks for mentioning this.  I'm going to start panning a party now  🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      sabergirl
                      見習いボス
                      Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                      I am sooo excited for this denim. The ignition stretch jean are great, and I’m sure these will be too.

                      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                        Seul
                        Joined: 24 Nov 2009

                        This is fantastic news for some folk!.. Fuck the haters!..  😎

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                          Kasi
                          見習いボス
                          Joined: 9 Oct 2014

                          As 2020 been a bad year with what going on, the new stretch hope it bring many smiles in 2021, I will give it a go without a doubt.

                          Can’t wait too see Haraki is a genius.
                          Iron Heart is the only brand in the world that is the pure top notch quality premium, which never let me down over the last 8 years, worn many different kinds of fits. Also worn many same one over again can’t get enough.

                          For 2023 anniversary party I am coming to Gosport meet the crew, also shall meet the member that I have been chanting to on the forum. @neph93  haven’t forgotten box of jalebi for you.

                          Also big shout @Giles  for bringing many smiles over the years..
                          keep going you’re the best at what you do.

                          The world's insane
                          While you drink champagne
                          And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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                            den1mhead
                            Raw and Unwashed
                            Joined: 6 Oct 2014

                            Sounds like a fantastic idea to me. I hope Shinayaka Selvedge Denim sells like hot cakes. Huge props to Haraki for staying with this concept until he was totally satisfied with it and able to deliver it to market.

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                              Jett129
                              見習いボス
                              Joined: 17 Aug 2011

                              I think the denim will be great,especially for anyone that rides and wears Iron Heart. Even though I’m 67,my favorite cut,and the one that looks best on me is the 555. Although when I ride I wear my 634s as they’re roomier and more comfortable for long days on the bike. When it starts to get colder,and I start wearing chaps,it’s hard to get them over the 634s,because of all the fabric that bunches up behind the knees when you sit down. I can wear thermals underneath the 634s,but they don’t keep me as warm. So to be able to wear 555s  with a little flexibility would be great and help keep my old ass warm.

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                                Filthy2123ozjunkie
                                見習いボスー
                                Joined: 21 Jan 2013

                                This sounds pretty awesome. Since this is a stretch denim I hope maybe you'll make the waist an inch more snug on the 555.

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                                  Giles
                                  IHUK Crew
                                  Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                  OK.  So I said that the Shinayaka and the 21oz indigo selvedge denim were exacty the same when viewed side by side.  I asked Sam to photograph them side by side to prove that, and in proper studio lighting there is a small difference….. 😞 😞

                                  [img alt="1–2.jpg"]https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/ihf-images/14626/1/8b7f1c54-61a9-47d7-8ce8-36f3a91afaf1.jpg

                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    neph93
                                    見習いボス
                                    Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                    Looks like the weft is a little darker, giving a darker indigo colour overall… the weave and hand (in as far as you can judge hand in a photo) look very similar though. I'm excited...

                                    “Some of those that work forces
                                    Are the same that burn crosses”

                                    • Virginia Woolf
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                                      sabergirl
                                      見習いボス
                                      Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                                      They look practically the same to me. Bring it on

                                      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                                        grassfedyogi
                                        Joined: 19 Jul 2020

                                        I know the answer is probably ‘we don’t know’…but any idea how the stretch denim will fade?

                                        Traditional wisdom says stretch denim creates less of a crease so the fade may be a bit more subdue...

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                                          Giles
                                          IHUK Crew
                                          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                          Tell you for def in about 9 months…...But in general I agree with your assertion....

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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