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21oz Shinayaka Selvedge Denim

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    Giles
    IHUK Crew
    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

    I just remembered another thing.  When H told me what he was doing, I said that I'd rather he worked on getting the 21oz superblack selvedge made.  He gave he a withering look, and said in a very polite Japanese sort of way, words to the effect, "anyone can make something the've done before, and I can do that for you if you want it, but I get the most satisfaction and joy by doing something new"

    He really dislikes the IH 1955 cut.  He makes it begrudgingly for us because he knows it fills a gap, but asking him to make something that has been made before gives him zero creative buzz…..

    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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      teddyjay
      Raw and Unwashed
      Joined: 19 Jun 2020

      I think stretch denim is a great idea!  I have a few pair of jeans with a bit of stretch and they are super comfy as hell.  They work so much better for practical reasons like crouching down.  I also have thicker thighs (from squatting not eating  :P) and would appreciate a little stretch in the top block while wearing a slimmer pair of jeans.

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        grassfedyogi
        Joined: 19 Jul 2020

        @Giles:

        I just remembered another thing.  When H told me what he was doing, I said that I'd rather he worked on getting the 21oz superblack selvedge made.  He gave he a withering look, and said in a very polite Japanese sort of way, words to the effect, "anyone can make something the've done before, and I can do that for you if you want it, but I get the most satisfaction and joy by doing something new"

        He really dislikes the IH 1955 cut.  He makes it begrudgingly for us because he knows it fills a gap, but asking him to make something that has been made before gives him zero creative buzz…..

        @Giles

        Giles - an crazy idea, any thought to write a book in the future? This sort of anecdotal exchanges, between yourself and Haraki san, is what drew me to IH initially. A (otherwise) unlikely partnership that somehow brings the best of both worlds…would love to hear more if possible.

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          spitfiredealer
          Raw and Unwashed
          Joined: 8 Apr 2013

          So when is this going to be available?

          Thinking a 888 in stretch 21oz might just be the comfiest pair of jeans ever!

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            spitfiredealer
            Raw and Unwashed
            Joined: 8 Apr 2013

            Also for some strange reason I want to see a pic of Giles in the 555's  😃

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              Giles
              IHUK Crew
              Joined: 22 Sept 2009

              @grassfedyogi:

              Giles - an crazy idea, any thought to write a book in the future?

              I can't write  😃 😃

              But thanks for the kind words, that means a lot to me…..

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                Giles
                IHUK Crew
                Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                @spitfiredealer:

                Also for some strange reason I want to see a pic of Giles in the 555's  😃

                Just thinking about what I saw in the mirror makes me laugh…..

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  spitfiredealer
                  Raw and Unwashed
                  Joined: 8 Apr 2013

                  Come on get one up. In these times we need as many laughs as possible  😉

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                    Giles
                    IHUK Crew
                    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                    @spitfiredealer:

                    So when is this going to be available?

                    SS21

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      grassfedyogi
                      Joined: 19 Jul 2020

                      @Giles:

                      Let me elaborate.

                      Haraki has been developing this new denim for 3 years.  Until he had got the amount of flex he was looking for and the look and feel of our signature 21oz indigo selvedge denim, he just kept on trying.

                      So please be open minded about it, we are not selling out.

                      As one of the newer IH fans, I absolutely do not see this as selling out. Most top-tier Japanese brands already have stretch denim. The truth is H-san could have rolled out any odd stretch denim out there, slap the IH brand on, stuff enough material to make sure it's 21oz+ (so it can be called 'heavyweight') and I'm pretty sure those jeans will fly out the door. IH could have made some fast money if it wanted to, but the fact that H-san spent 3 years developing his own version of IH-stretch gives me confidence that this will be one of the best stretch denim out there. It may not suite everyone, each to their own. But I've certainly got this pencil down for 2021  😎

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                        Giles
                        IHUK Crew
                        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                        This is one of my favourites…

                        A couple of months prior, I'd asked Haraki to make the indigo/indigo 18oz denim.  We were in Bangkok for the Pronto Denum Carnival, and were in the hotel restaurant on the first night.

                        Haraki - "Ive made the new denim you asked for"
                        Giles - "Wow, great.  What's it like"
                        Haraki - "Well, I think you'll like it"

                        A couple of years later he decided he liked it too, and released it in Japan…

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          teddyjay
                          Raw and Unwashed
                          Joined: 19 Jun 2020

                          @Giles:

                          @grassfedyogi:

                          Giles - an crazy idea, any thought to write a book in the future?

                          I can't write  😃 😃

                          But thanks for the kind words, that means a lot to me…..

                          I’m sure a picture book would suffice 😉

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                            neph93
                            見習いボス
                            Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                            @grassfedyogi:

                            Giles - an crazy idea, any thought to write a book in the future? This sort of anecdotal exchanges, between yourself and Haraki san, is what drew me to IH initially. A (otherwise) unlikely partnership that somehow brings the best of both worlds…would love to hear more if possible.

                            The idea to write a brand history occurred to me a while back… one day I’ll do it. Great excuse to go to Japan. And Gosport. Of course going to Gosport without an good reason is grounds for being sectioned.

                            “Some of those that work forces
                            Are the same that burn crosses”

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                              neph93
                              見習いボス
                              Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                              @spitfiredealer:

                              Come on get one up. In these times we need as many laughs as possible  😉

                              You know how I occasionally wear jeans that are a little tight for me… you may get to see that again soon.  Good enough? [emoji1]

                              “Some of those that work forces
                              Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                grassfedyogi
                                Joined: 19 Jul 2020

                                @Giles:

                                This is one of my favourites…

                                A couple of months prior, I'd asked Haraki to make the indigo/indigo 18oz denim.  We were in Bangkok for the Pronto Denum Carnival, and were in the hotel restaurant on the first night.

                                Haraki - "Ive made the new denim you asked for"
                                Giles - "Wow, great.  What's it like"
                                Haraki - "Well, I think you'll like it"

                                A couple of years later he decided he liked it too, and released it in Japan…

                                I'm going to guess H-san actually liked it from the get go, but thought he would wait a few years and hoped that you won't notice… 😃 😃

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                                  grassfedyogi
                                  Joined: 19 Jul 2020

                                  @neph93:

                                  @grassfedyogi:

                                  Giles - an crazy idea, any thought to write a book in the future? This sort of anecdotal exchanges, between yourself and Haraki san, is what drew me to IH initially. A (otherwise) unlikely partnership that somehow brings the best of both worlds…would love to hear more if possible.

                                  The idea to write a brand history occurred to me a while back… one day I’ll do it. Great excuse to go to Japan. And Gosport. Of course going to Gosport without an good reason is grounds for being sectioned.

                                  When's the next brand anniversary? 20th? 30th? I think it would be fun to make this into an anniversary project, and research should start now :D. There you go @neph93 I've found a reason for you.

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                                    Giles
                                    IHUK Crew
                                    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                    The 20th anniversary is in 2023.

                                    Thanks for mentioning this.  I'm going to start panning a party now  🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      sabergirl
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                                      Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                                      I am sooo excited for this denim. The ignition stretch jean are great, and I’m sure these will be too.

                                      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                                        Seul
                                        Joined: 24 Nov 2009

                                        This is fantastic news for some folk!.. Fuck the haters!..  😎

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                                          Kasi
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                                          Joined: 9 Oct 2014

                                          As 2020 been a bad year with what going on, the new stretch hope it bring many smiles in 2021, I will give it a go without a doubt.

                                          Can’t wait too see Haraki is a genius.
                                          Iron Heart is the only brand in the world that is the pure top notch quality premium, which never let me down over the last 8 years, worn many different kinds of fits. Also worn many same one over again can’t get enough.

                                          For 2023 anniversary party I am coming to Gosport meet the crew, also shall meet the member that I have been chanting to on the forum. @neph93  haven’t forgotten box of jalebi for you.

                                          Also big shout @Giles  for bringing many smiles over the years..
                                          keep going you’re the best at what you do.

                                          The world's insane
                                          While you drink champagne
                                          And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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