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    DrPat
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    Joined: 9 Oct 2009

    Impressive.  I'm sure that list took many hours of effort.

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      DrPat
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      Joined: 9 Oct 2009

      The format of the definition of Left Hand Twill needs to be fixed.  Looks like a copy-paste error in which one of the two alternatives was updated.

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        Jett129
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        That is fantastic. A term that I’ve occasionally heard,that I’m not really sure of,or if it in any way pertains to IH,is Deadstock. I get the impression that it’s something that I should think is cool,but I’m not sure why.

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          neph93
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          @DrPat:

          The format of the definition of Left Hand Twill needs to be fixed.  Looks like a copy-paste error in which one of the two alternatives was updated.

          Noted, thank you!

          “Some of those that work forces
          Are the same that burn crosses”

          • Virginia Woolf
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            neph93
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            @Jett129:

            That is fantastic. A term that I’ve occasionally heard,that I’m not really sure of,or if it in any way pertains to IH,is Deadstock. I get the impression that it’s something that I should think is cool,but I’m not sure why.

            Thanks! Deadstock was originally covered under an entry for «Vintage Denim» but that seems to have disappeared in an edit. We’ll consider how to fix that.

            (Between you and me, deadstock is fabric or finished articles that are no longer made, but have been stored. As a theoretical example, if Haraki-san went into his store house and found a roll of UHR that had been sat there for 10 years it would be considered deadstock. Any jeans made from that roll could also be called deadstock. Obviously, rare and limited items, especially with the provenance of age, have a certain amount of «cool» attached to them).

            “Some of those that work forces
            Are the same that burn crosses”

            • Virginia Woolf
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              manufc10
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              Joined: 14 Mar 2015

              Just a minor suggestion but IMO "boyfriend" should be "boyfriend cut"?

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                Kasi
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                Nice information to know

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                The world's insane
                While you drink champagne
                And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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                  louisbosco
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                  Joined: 21 Feb 2013

                  "IWHWIH" - Giles speak for 'haven't got a fucking clue'. when i know more, you will too.  😃 😃 😛 😛

                  jokes aside, that's quite a fantastic list there.. @neph93

                  "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

                  • Harvey Specter
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                    neph93
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                    @louisbosco:

                    "IWHWIH" - Giles speak for 'haven't got a fucking clue'. when i know more, you will too.  😃 😃 😛 😛

                    jokes aside, that's quite a fantastic list there.. @neph93

                    [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] that needs to go in…

                    “Some of those that work forces
                    Are the same that burn crosses”

                    • Virginia Woolf
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                      louisbosco
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                      yeah was the first thing i looked for but it wasn't there..  😃 😃

                      "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

                      • Harvey Specter
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                        manufc10
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                        Joined: 14 Mar 2015

                        An excerpt from the Chino definition;

                        "The etymology of the term chino is disputed. Some sources identify the root as the American Spanish language word chino, which translated, literally means toasted."

                        Spanish is not my native language but I'm fairly familiar with it and as far as I know Chino means Chinese, not toasted.  Anybody who's fluent in Spanish here can correct me if I'm wrong obviously…but I'm about 99% certain Chino does not mean toasted.  Tostado (tostada, feminine) is the translation for toasted.

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                          neph93
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                          @manufc10:

                          Spanish is not my native language but I'm fairly familiar with it and as far as I know Chino means Chinese, not toasted.

                          Can’t remember the source for that, but I will check it out. Thank you.

                          “Some of those that work forces
                          Are the same that burn crosses”

                          • Virginia Woolf
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                            neph93
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                            Found it… it isn’t toasted in the sense of «tostada», and it is an archaic/colloquial term.

                            https://books.google.no/books?id=KPlVDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA239&lpg=PA239&dq=chino+toasted&source=bl&ots=KXE_0lvCUS&sig=ACfU3U1O13KMCiJpehDPYtAV570MFzuBhg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjk65e_4srqAhVuposKHdpuBTQQ6AEwDXoECAIQAQ#v=onepage&q=chino toasted&f=false

                            “Some of those that work forces
                            Are the same that burn crosses”

                            • Virginia Woolf
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                              manufc10
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                              Interesting.  That's news to me.

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                                jordanscollected
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                                1.Atari Fade- This jacket has been overdyed black with a fugitive pigment dye which is an unstable and un-permanent dye that fades to later show the indigo denim underneath. Essentially this is a denim that begins black and fades to indigo in high friction areas, or what the Japanese call the "atari" fade. (that is a copy/paste from self edge on the IH OD type III)

                                2. Hidden Placket- I figured this could use a proper definition and be included.

                                3. Cuffing- Single, Double, Tokyo Turnup, etc.

                                4. Over Engineered - gotta be something here

                                5. Release Date- means absolutely nothing

                                world tours:
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                                Mad Red x2
                                Wabidashery

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                                  neph93
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                                  Good man. This is what we need. Brainstorming and as many suggestions as possible so the glossary can grow rich and fat.

                                  “Some of those that work forces
                                  Are the same that burn crosses”

                                  • Virginia Woolf
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                                    Eisenherz
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                                    Joined: 8 Mar 2016

                                    Ventile also japanese ventile
                                    is a registered trademark used to brand a special high-quality woven cotton fabric first developed by scientists at the Shirley Institute in Manchester, England. Originally created to overcome a shortage of flax used for fire hoses and water buckets, its properties were also found to be ideal for pilots' immersion suits.

                                    Extra-long-staple (ELS) cotton fibres are used to form a low-twist yarn, which is then woven into a tight high-density textile to create a 100% cotton fabric, capable of providing an effective barrier against inclement weather. In wet weather the softly spun yarns - within the tight weave - dynamically expand to form an effective barrier against the elements. (Wiki)

                                    It is too long but interesting

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                                      Eisenherz
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                                      Wax
                                      Of paraffine origin is used to make cotton stuff more resistable against elements as wind and water also wax makes cotton clothing live longer…

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                                        Eisenherz
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                                        Blanked Lining lining out of woolen blanket
                                        Red bondage lining red cotton lining to improve wind resistance

                                        The 21 oz effect: makes you thinking if you wearing "normal" jeans you would wear stuff out of newspaper or so

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                                          Jett129
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                                          Here’s one…In light of the popularity of the recent Indigo Fade Competition,there’s a lot of talk about “CONTEST JEANS”,by contestants or by manufacturers who are making special edition  jeans for contestants to wear In the contest. Early on in my IH days there was a Denim World Championship for which IH was making a special limited edition jean. I ordered a pair because I thought they were really cool,not thinking I might be depriving a genuine contestant of the opportunity to have them. When I voiced my concern I was told not to worry. Nonetheless Contest/Competition jeans might need a space in the glossary.

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