Coronavirus (Covid-19) Discussion
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Meh… the modeling referred to in the article is useful, the idea that this will change everything a lot is one I concure with, and the probablity that measures will last longer than most realise is high, in my opinion. Regardless, the article is quite speculative, and does not take into account potential positive developments like vaccines, treatments or a host of other things.
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There is also potential, when testing becomes widely available, the rest of the world does what South Korea did and has everyone get tested. If in, say six months, a test is available to everyone and it turns out it is already in a vast majority of the populations RNA (which I think in six months or less it will be) then things may calm down quite a bit in terms quarantine. Obviously there are a whole lot of 'ifs' in that but its not impossible.
Separately, I do hope we all can keep hold of some of the good habits that have been formed during this time. Assuming we do, it will be interesting to see future cold and flu season numbers post COVID vs. Pre-COVID.
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Separately, I do hope we all can keep hold of some of the good habits that have been formed during this time. Assuming we do, it will be interesting to see future cold and flu season numbers post COVID vs. Pre-COVID.
There is a lot of potential in this situation, grim as it currently is. Both one way and the other.
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Considering you can be asymptomatic but still be contagious, I still don’t know how useful the tests are going to be, unless you want to test everyone daily.
If you are infected but asymptomatic and you get tested you will still test positive for the virus, or am I misunderstanding your point?
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Separately, I do hope we all can keep hold of some of the good habits that have been formed during this time. Assuming we do, it will be interesting to see future cold and flu season numbers post COVID vs. Pre-COVID.
Using 1918 as a guide, what we may see is the combination of seasonal change and measures we've taken lead to the outbreak seeming to go away within a couple or few months, then when winter returns at the end of the year the resulting comfort and complacency from seeming to have gotten past the virus will render us extremely vulnerable to the next outbreak. I hope that policymakers and public refuse to let up no matter what. Even when we think we're done with this outbreak, we won't be done with outbreaks.
Pandemics are inevitable, and IMO so far we've gotten off lucky with this "reminder." It could have been an airborne-transmissible Ebola, or had Coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) transmissibility and SARS (SARS-CoV) lethality (it was more deadly but less contagious). I believe we will eventually see something like that and worse, and we'd damn well better be ready for it. Meanwhile, gotta shut down these Petri dishes like the Chinese wild animal wet markets and reevaluate animal supply chains in general.
Crazy to think of how many deadly pathogens can be traced back to bats and rodents. Coronavirus and Ebola are so different from one another but both likely trace back to bats.
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Considering you can be asymptomatic but still be contagious, I still don’t know how useful the tests are going to be, unless you want to test everyone daily.
If you are infected but asymptomatic and you get tested you will still test positive for the virus, or am I misunderstanding your point?
In theory you should test positive, yes
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Considering you can be asymptomatic but still be contagious, I still don’t know how useful the tests are going to be, unless you want to test everyone daily.
If you are infected but asymptomatic and you get tested you will still test positive for the virus, or am I misunderstanding your point?
In theory you should test positive, yes
I think the point if widespread aggressive testing, as used to apparently great affect in S. Korea, is that it gives you an idea of where the virus is and in what numbers. This allows the use of more targeted measures when combined with following up transmission vectors, which SK also did well.
Ignoring the catastrophic economic and social consequences, the kind of lockdowns being used now in the West are going to contribute to slowing the spread, but they are effectively blanket bombing.
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Would people with confirmed key worker roles in their respective countries be happy to identify and assist in sharing the objective information that they are being given so that it can help to more reliably inform others?
We should be socially responsible and try to minimise the hysteria that is caused by bad press and vlogger types.
I'll start… For those of us in the UK (to hear mean England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland) here is a link to the Coronavirus Bill 2020.it states emergency measures and restrictions on existing legislation. What is interesting to me is that it applies a blanket bill across the UK. Scotland and Northern Ireland ALWAYS have their own bills and acts of Parliment/assembly:
What I've just found quite startling is that on Thursday at work we were sent links to that actual bill that now do not exist. I think i downloaded a full copy.
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@Giles that is the best of the human spirit!
we can be resilient buggers when we need to be. Never stop laughing!As far as IH UK and global, as with many an independent business, I hope your strong customer base sees you all through. I for one will be spending less on non-essentials… Clothing is not a 'non-essential' so this payday or next, I might need something else IH to see me through the daily woodland walks!
Thank you for being not just an exemplary business person, but to you and your team for being decent people (even when I do test that decency sometimes with my comments
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@Giles that is the best of the human spirit!
we can be resilient buggers when we need to be. Never stop laughing!As far as IH UK and global, as with many an independent business, I hope your strong customer base sees you all through. I for one will be spending less on non-essentials… Clothing is not a 'non-essential' so this payday or next, I might need something else IH to see me through the daily woodland walks!
Thank you for being not just an exemplary business person, but to you and your team for being decent people (even when I do test that decency sometimes with my comments [emoji6])
Nice one Mr. T. Excellent post, sir.
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So we’ve made friends with a lot of people that play supportive roles in our day to day life. We basically go to the same restaurants all the time, we’re friends with our dog walker and groomer, and there are other random folks here and there. As cranky as I am I’m usually very polite to people.
Jody and I have committed to getting take out more to support our local restaurants, the groomer who is out of work for a couple weeks will be visiting the house to take care of the pups, and the dog walker is coming even though jody and I are home.
The pandemic doesn’t affect us financially at all and it doesn’t seem right that we save a couple bucks being at home because we can.
Additionally, we finally have our food reserves so far in the black we are letting our neighbors help themselves to ingredients that they may find themselves without. We have a friend that owns a ranch that gifts us a cow every year and we’ve been handing out American wagyu (this does pain me).
And should things go pear shaped we have increased the sleeping capacity of the house from three to nine should people need a safe place to lay down their heads.
I’m still tremendously concerned the economic downturn will result in chaos in the streets, and idle hands can lead to felonies…but in the meantime we’re trying to be positive and be supportive to those that were not as prepared as us.
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@DougNg great attitude and perspective. If everyone approaches this crisis similarly, we’ll come out stronger on the other side. Keep your chins up everyone. Things are gonna be extremely challenging very soon, but if we all pull together and do what we have to do to stop the spread of this virus, we will get through it.
