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IH-888-XHSib - 25oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - Ind/blk

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  • N
    nrtphotos
    Raw and Unwashed
    Joined: 26 Apr 2022

    Well, my pair arrived and unfortunately they really aren’t a great fit. The waist is way too big, I can basically fit a fist in the gap. I also get fabric clumping/diaper butt. This really surprised me, I had been back and forth with the folks in the UK and the measurements looked good. These are a size 36, I feel like I’m probably two sizes down from these to get a proper fit.

    Any thoughts? I wear Naked and Famous Weird Guys in a size 34, this works out to a measured 36 waist. The problem I have is in the Weird Guys I have restricted movement and keep blowing out crotches. They always feel tight in the crotch and thighs. I figured the 888’s were the answer.

    What should I do? I don’t think a single size down is the answer. Do I size down to a 34 or look at a different model altogether? I really wanted these to work, don’t want to keep returning things either.

    Thanks!

    last edited by 2 Jul 2022, 19:51 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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      goosehd
      Mod Squad
      Joined: 8 Apr 2016

      @nrtphotos They are huge…and sizing down is an answer.  My best advise is to take your favourite jeans and measure the key areas the IH way.  Take those measurements and compare them to IH jeans to find a comparable match.

      The link below is how IH measures jeans.

      https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=9188.msg467518#msg467518

      I really don’t think you’ll be happy with those jeans.  Good luck in your search!

      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

      last edited by 2 Jul 2022, 20:11 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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        nrtphotos
        Raw and Unwashed
        Joined: 26 Apr 2022

        @goosehd:

        @nrtphotos They are huge…and sizing down is an answer.  My best advise is to take your favourite jeans and measure the key areas the IH way.  Take those measurements and compare them to IH jeans to find a comparable match.

        The link below is how IH measures jeans.

        https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=9188.msg467518#msg467518

        I really don’t think you’ll be happy with those jeans.  Good luck in your search!

        Would you agree that it’s probably two sizes down, not one?

        last edited by 2 Jul 2022, 20:13 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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          goosehd
          Mod Squad
          Joined: 8 Apr 2016

          @nrtphotos …I can’t tell you that and feel it’s a bad approach to sizing jeans in general.  IH numbers/measurements are the absolute best way to size and any guessing will lead to jeans that you may be unhappy with (unless you get lucky).

          Highly suggest getting a tape and measure jeans/pants/shorts that fit you well and starting from there.

          "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

          last edited by 2 Jul 2022, 20:18 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • J
            Joberwocky
            Raw and Unwashed
            Joined: 14 Apr 2021

            @nrtphotos Though I typically go the 777 or 555 cut, I can agree wholeheartedly with @goosehd that going by the posted measurements for the specific jean or item you're getting and ignoring the waist size "number" entirely is the way to go.

            last edited by 2 Jul 2022, 20:30 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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              nrtphotos
              Raw and Unwashed
              Joined: 26 Apr 2022

              @goosehd:

              @nrtphotos …I can’t tell you that and feel it’s a bad approach to sizing jeans in general.  IH numbers/measurements are the absolute best way to size and any guessing will lead to jeans that you may be unhappy with (unless you get lucky).

              Highly suggest getting a tape and measure jeans/pants/shorts that fit you well and starting from there.

              I used that guide and did all the measurements, that’s why these are such a head scratcher for me.

              last edited by 2 Jul 2022, 20:33 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                neph93
                見習いボス
                Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                Probably down to a 34. The tricky thing with the 888 is that although the waist dims come in slightly under tagsize, the high rise means you can go smaller.

                “Some of those that work forces
                Are the same that burn crosses”

                • Virginia Woolf
                last edited by 2 Jul 2022, 20:33 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                  goosehd
                  Mod Squad
                  Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                  @neph93 The guru is in the house  :). Thanks brother!

                  "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

                  last edited by 2 Jul 2022, 20:44 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                    Matt
                    見習いボス
                    Joined: 4 Oct 2011

                    Agreed.  Measuring the waist of an 888 is not the same fit as the same measurements in low rose jeans  like the 777 or 666.  The waist in each pair sits on a different part of your body and those pets have different measurements.  This is an area where unfortunately the sizing methodology recommendations from the crew can be tricky.  Ultimately trial and error is how I’ve managed to figure out my size over the years. Also keep in mind that once they’re broken in some of the things that concern you like bunching and diaper butt will disappear, especially with 25 oz which starts out very stiff.

                    Go 34 and don’t be afraid to let them stretch a bit. They def will.

                    last edited by 3 Jul 2022, 02:03 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                      nrtphotos
                      Raw and Unwashed
                      Joined: 26 Apr 2022

                      Thanks guys. I think the 34 is the answer too. I think sizing down one size would be a mistake. I will ship these back when the label arrives and get the guys to put aside a 34. Really looking forward to having a pair that fits!

                      last edited by 3 Jul 2022, 02:20 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                        neph93
                        見習いボス
                        Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                        @nrtphotos:

                        Thanks guys. I think the 34 is the answer too. I think sizing down one size would be a mistake. I will ship these back when the label arrives and get the guys to put aside a 34. Really looking forward to having a pair that fits!

                        Good plan. Looking forward to hearing how it goes.

                        “Some of those that work forces
                        Are the same that burn crosses”

                        • Virginia Woolf
                        last edited by 6 Jul 2022, 20:37 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • J
                          Johnny 3 Tears
                          Joined: 6 Aug 2022

                          Hi guys, I'm new to the forum. I own a pair of 21oz 634s and love them.

                          I am wondering if this 25oz Ind/Blk is more "windproof" than the signature 21oz denim. I am looking for a more windproof option for colder weather on my motorcycle.

                          last edited by 7 Aug 2022, 11:48 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                            Jett129
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                            Joined: 17 Aug 2011

                            The 25OZ denim will give you about 5 more degrees of cold weather riding as compared to the 21OZ. WITH THE 21OZ 60 degrees was the over under for me where I started to think I might need thermals or chaps. With the 250Z I was good down to about 55 or so,but I found that chaps and 25OZ denim was too bulky around the back of the knees. Hope this helps.

                            last edited by 7 Aug 2022, 12:20 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • DmartD
                              Dmart
                              啓蒙家
                              Joined: 24 Mar 2021

                              I can’t give you the math like @Jett129 but the 25oz is definitely more windproof and more suitable for cold weather riding. Up to 50 degrees I have no issues wearing them without thermals.
                              Even the 14oz for me is more suitable for colder days than the 21oz due to the weave.

                              last edited by 7 Aug 2022, 12:46 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                Jett129
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                                Joined: 17 Aug 2011

                                On the flip side I could wear the 21OZ comfortably in temps up to about 80. After that it’s just too hot for me. Used to be able to tolerate higher/lower temps on the bike ,but as I got older the temp range that I was comfortable riding in definitely narrowed.

                                last edited by 7 Aug 2022, 13:12 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                  goosehd
                                  Mod Squad
                                  Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                                  I find it’s not the temperature so much as the humidity/dampness combined with the temperature.  I’ve ridden in 30-40 Fahrenheit temps with dry conditions and been fine, but in 50-60 with damp conditions and damn near felt like I was freezing to death.

                                  "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

                                  last edited by 7 Aug 2022, 13:35 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • J
                                    Johnny 3 Tears
                                    Joined: 6 Aug 2022

                                    Thanks for sharing your experiences on the bike. I am going to give the 25oz a try.

                                    Trying to quickly read through the thread before the sale price expires. lol.

                                    Trying to decide on the hem length. I would like the finished product (after shrinkage) to be around 29.5 inseam. should I get a 30.5 hem or a 30.0 hem? Not sure about the shrink? a full inch?

                                    last edited by 8 Jul 2022, 14:11 7 Aug 2022, 13:52 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • DmartD
                                      Dmart
                                      啓蒙家
                                      Joined: 24 Mar 2021

                                      If you can, soak and wash them first to get the shrinkage out and get them hemmed afterwards. This way you are on the safe side. My XHS shrank just shy of an inch after the wash.

                                      last edited by 7 Aug 2022, 15:00 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                        Jett129
                                        見習いボス
                                        Joined: 17 Aug 2011

                                        If I plan on wearing jeans on the bike,especially in cooler weather, I tend to err on the longer side as you don’t want them riding up too high when you’re sitting down on the bike.

                                        last edited by 7 Aug 2022, 16:22 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • CreaseC
                                          Crease
                                          Haraki san Expert
                                          Joined: 21 Oct 2021

                                          These are a little too big on me since I was still figuring out my preferred cut when I got these. I still love the denim and the 888 is super comfy, no binding in thighs or knees, but still a nice taper even on a larger size.

                                          Been trying to beat these up but so far they haven’t flinched!

                                          last edited by 31 Aug 2022, 22:28 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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