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    thebeardoweirdo
    The Unwoven
    Joined: 24 Nov 2020

    At least there is still Iron Heart Germany to order through!

    Snowboards, Basses, Pinballs

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      Alex
      IHUK Crew
      Joined: 28 Sept 2009

      Yep, absolutely. And all our other European retailers.

      last edited by 2 Feb 2021, 16:03 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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        dinobarnesberlin
        啓蒙家
        Joined: 28 Mar 2020

        @Giles:

        @dinobarnesberlin:

        Looks like I picked the wrong time to stop taking Valium–--

        I gave up smoking 3 weeks ago and me and Paula are having a dry Feb.  Now that's bad timing  😃 😃

        oh man I feel for you G–-good luck kicking it:)

        last edited by 2 Feb 2021, 16:20 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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          Max Power
          Raw and Unwashed
          Joined: 31 Oct 2010

          Terrible news. Crossing fingers for a good solution.
          Though it doesn't surprise me, after reading the FT interview with Danny RnH

          @elclintor:

          > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

          last edited by 2 Feb 2021, 16:43 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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            jordanscollected
            啓蒙家
            Joined: 13 Nov 2018

            I know this is a serious topic and i hope it all smooths out fast Iron Heart crew.  That being said…

            I'm am hereby coining the term "IHUK-xit" and will be collecting royalties here forth.

            world tours:
            888 Fat guy chocolate WT
            Mad Red x2
            Wabidashery

            last edited by 2 Feb 2021, 17:39 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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              neph93
              見習いボス
              Joined: 18 Aug 2014

              I notice the UK government had described this kind of thing as «teething problems». What a slap in the face that is for all the small businesses at the heart of the British economy.

              “Some of those that work forces
              Are the same that burn crosses”

              • Virginia Woolf
              last edited by 2 Feb 2021, 18:23 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                Kasi
                見習いボス
                Joined: 9 Oct 2014

                The U.K government
                Lies… 😞 😠

                https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/europe-news/der-spiegel-on-brexit-6873020?fbclid=IwAR3C-iIb48RKydQEyL1qLbakURLC4OoAfyqkvwj-F4QR2Sc6xPe9m0ukJpE

                I have ordered few stuff from Iron Heart Germany
                Can’t now will be hit with custom tax..
                Iron Heart Gosport has my backing, your here am here hell with the government

                Need sorting both ways..
                Not only for buying, but returning too..

                Let the seller and buyer down..

                The world's insane
                While you drink champagne
                And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

                last edited by 2 Feb 2021, 18:41 2 Feb 2021, 18:35 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                  vaquero357
                  Banned
                  Joined: 9 Aug 2020

                  …so the UK is doing this (additional costs for shipping/tax and confusion) or a retaliatory strike from the EU members?

                  last edited by 2 Feb 2021, 19:46 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                    TeflonDon
                    Joined: 22 Nov 2020

                    Neither. One of the core principles is the EU is the free movement of goods and workforce within the union. The free movement of workforce is one of the main reasons for the brits leaving.

                    Once out a new trade agreement needs to be made before goods can move freely, and those negotiations didn’t work out - but it would have been somewhat weird had the union just accepted an agreement that would allow free movement of goods from the UK without getting something significant in return.

                    last edited by 2 Feb 2021, 20:24 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                      Cole
                      啓蒙家
                      Joined: 15 Apr 2014

                      Realy bad news, not unexpected but realy bad.  😞 I hope this will be solved fast.

                      WTB:
                      IHJ-96-OLV Size L
                      IHE-13

                      last edited by 2 Feb 2021, 21:09 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                        Steffen
                        Joined: 26 Jul 2017

                        @neph93:

                        I notice the UK government had described this kind of thing as «teething problems». What a slap in the face that is for all the small businesses at the heart of the British economy.

                        Especially knowing that the big players made the move into EU warehouses months ago, I spoke to a customs expert from a swiss logistics company sometime in late 2019, he was then already starting with transporting stuff to the EU and mapping out concepts to avoid the chaos that goes on now for his customers.

                        last edited by 2 Feb 2021, 21:12 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                          goosehd
                          Mod Squad
                          Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                          I believe that @Brock gave you the solution to this problem years ago in one of his posts.  You will just need someone to travel back and forth to EU countries once the lockdowns are lifted.

                          In all seriousness, this situation sucks and I hope that you are able to find a solution that works out for everybody.

                          "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

                          last edited by 3 Feb 2021, 16:09 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                            Giles
                            IHUK Crew
                            Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                            Hahahahahahahaha…...

                            We made a lot of progress today thank you.

                            Ther are a number of parts to the problem

                            1. A trade deal is of no use if the customs people who process shipments in the individual countries have not been told the rules
                            2. Any of the customs officials who are pissed off with the UK for leaving the EU and therefore making their lives hell, are punishing UK shipments by slapping whatever charges they think they can get away with (and now the hell do I start a claim with the Bulgarian tax office, or indeed, and of the EU countries)
                            3. The EU and Japan have a free trade arrangement, the UK and Japan have the same free trade agreement, so all intelligent people would think that therefore shipping Japanese goods between the EU and the UK would not attract duty, and that is exactly what we were told before 21st Dec.  Actually, there is a not now a single person we can speak to who will give us a definitive answer, most of our shipments containing Japanese goods into the EU are attracting duty, but not all.
                            4. Even goods made in The UK (Simmons Bilt) are attracting duty (see point 2).

                            Alex, Paula and I did a comprehensive audit of all shipments we have made into Europe since 1st Jan, now that we have sufficient data to do that task.  Our operating margins are running at about -6% to +8% (yes, that is minus 6 percent).

                            That is why we have had to do what we have done.

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                            last edited by 2 Mar 2021, 17:11 3 Feb 2021, 16:56 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                              Seul
                              Joined: 24 Nov 2009

                              Weird - I haven't heard of Gove being strangled by a bunch of Gosport's finest!..

                              last edited by 3 Feb 2021, 17:04 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                Giles
                                IHUK Crew
                                Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                🙂 🙂

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                                last edited by 3 Feb 2021, 17:10 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                  Chap
                                  見習いボス
                                  Joined: 24 May 2016

                                  No jobless fishermen in good old Gosy? Cherbourg's not that far away… 😶 😶 😶

                                  God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

                                  last edited by 3 Feb 2021, 18:05 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                    Disgrace
                                    Raw and Unwashed
                                    Joined: 2 Feb 2021

                                    @vaquero357:

                                    …so the UK is doing this (additional costs for shipping/tax and confusion) or a retaliatory strike from the EU members?

                                    The problem is the terms of the deal itself. The UK decided in 2017 to leave the Single Market and Customs Union. They got their wish.

                                    UK goods are furthermore liable to duty as they left the single VAT Area. Sadly, there is no "sorting" this out. This is the outcome, for five years at least.

                                    Teething problems are only somewhat true. UK traders do not yet need to produce all paperwork to prove their goods meet requirements. In future, they will.

                                    The UK left to pursue strike deals elsewhere. Okay. But that likely results in regulatory divergence with the EU, therefore more UK-EU trade friction. Or why leave?

                                    I can't claim to have any special insight, but it seems to me that an expanded Iron Heart EU operation is the only viable, long-term path. I hope it's up to speed soon.

                                    Hello everyone, apologies that my first post is about Brexit. I also own some Iron Heart goods, and look forward to ordering again in the near future.

                                    last edited by 3 Feb 2021, 20:52 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      Disgrace
                                      Raw and Unwashed
                                      Joined: 2 Feb 2021

                                      @Giles:

                                      1. A trade deal is of no use if the customs people who process shipments in the individual countries have not been told the rules
                                      2. Any of the customs officials who are pissed off with the UK for leaving the EU and therefore making their lives hell, are punishing UK shipments by slapping whatever charges they think they can get away with (and now the hell do I start a claim with the Bulgarian tax office, or indeed, and of the EU countries)
                                      3. The EU and Japan have a free trade arrangement, the UK and Japan have the same free trade agreement, so all intelligent people would think that therefore shipping Japanese goods between the EU and the UK would not attract duty, and that is exactly what we were told before 21st Dec.  Actually, there is a not now a single person we can speak to who will give us a definitive answer, most of our shipments containing Japanese goods into the EU are attracting duty, but not all.
                                        4) Even goods made in The UK (Simmons Bilt) are attracting duty (see point 2).

                                      Point four is sadly a straightforward case. The jacket fails to meet rules of origin.

                                      While made in the UK, it is made of what is considered "foreign" content. American hide, for instance.

                                      Over a certain threshold of "foreign" content and the good fails to qualify. And if it does qualify, the paperwork needs to be filled out to say so.

                                      Just explaining the situation for the benefit of all. Tariff-free trade is a mere mirage. A delight, from start to finish.

                                      last edited by 3 Feb 2021, 21:20 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                        neph93
                                        見習いボス
                                        Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                        Welcome @Disgrace thanks for your insight.

                                        “Some of those that work forces
                                        Are the same that burn crosses”

                                        • Virginia Woolf
                                        last edited by 3 Feb 2021, 22:49 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          Stuart.T
                                          Raw and Unwashed
                                          Joined: 21 Sept 2017

                                          Just wait until the distraction of covid passes. The pricks in the UK that voted for this shit storm based on precious sovereignty won't know what's hit them. I don't particularly want to spend my UK holiday dealing with some moron that would normally have spent 2 weeks poolside in Alicanti.

                                          I've received a few EU orders (Germany) using DPD, ordered from UK based websites, and I was gobsmacked that they arrived inside 3 days, one arrived today. Nothing frustrates me more than inconsistency.

                                          Hope you folks find a remedy soon.

                                          last edited by 3 Feb 2021, 23:12 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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