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IH-526J-142 - 14oz Selvedge Denim Modified Type III - Indigo

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    Giles
    IHUK Crew
    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

    It is definitely true that the 21oz denim breathes better than the 14oz denim.  I think though, that this is more apparent in jeans than jackets, there is something about the heft of a Type III made out of 21oz that makes you feel hot, I think it's physiological, but still…..

    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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      David K.K. Hansen
      Joined: 12 Nov 2014

      @Giles:

      It is definitely true that the 21oz denim breathes better than the 14oz denim.  I think though, that this is more apparent in jeans than jackets, there is something about the heft of a Type III made out of 21oz that makes you feel hot, I think it's physiological, but still…..

      Wonder if it might be that humans dissipates more heat from the upper body than through the legs, that a jacket made of the same material might feel warmer than jeans?  Could also be the construction and design of the Type III.

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        zeuloa
        Raw and Unwashed
        Joined: 11 Dec 2020

        @Giles:

        It is definitely true that the 21oz denim breathes better than the 14oz denim.  I think though, that this is more apparent in jeans than jackets, there is something about the heft of a Type III made out of 21oz that makes you feel hot, I think it's physiological, but still…..

        Well we’ll soon find out… Ordered the 526Pj and it’ll be here on Wednesday according to UPS... Low on wed will be 70f (21c) when it arrives so I’ll keep you guys posted!

        Also pre-ordered a 15oz Cone Mills from Brave Star that should be here towards the end of the month so I’ll do a comparison... Hopefully I’ll have the best of American and Japanese denim and manufacture.

        BTW spectacular service from Adam... I can see why so many love you guys besides having a great product! Unfortunately I can’t say the same about Brave Star, although I understand they’re understaffed, haven’t been able to reach them for more than a week as they don’t pick up the phone, haven’t responded to VM and to a few emails with some questions pre and post ordering... But I’m sure the product will be great from what I’ve heard... either way I’m stuck with it as no cancellation on pre-orders and returns only for size exchange from what I read [emoji2371]

        Will keep you guys posted on Wednesday when this beast arrives [emoji38]

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          zeuloa
          Raw and Unwashed
          Joined: 11 Dec 2020

          @BULLITT:

          @Giles:

          It is definitely true that the 21oz denim breathes better than the 14oz denim.  I think though, that this is more apparent in jeans than jackets, there is something about the heft of a Type III made out of 21oz that makes you feel hot, I think it's physiological, but still…..

          Wonder if it might be that humans dissipates more heat from the upper body than through the legs, that a jacket made of the same material might feel warmer than jeans?  Could also be the construction and design of the Type III.

          Oddly enough this happens to me with my feet as well… If I’m too warm I take socks off and I cool down and vice versa haha

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            David K.K. Hansen
            Joined: 12 Nov 2014

            @zeuloa:

            Oddly enough this happens to me with my feet as well… If I’m too warm I take socks off and I cool down and vice versa haha

            Ha! Same here, except I stick my feet out of the duvet when I sleep at night  😃

            I hope it works out for you with the 14oz jacket!  I'm personally starting to like the lighter denim from Iron Heart more and more, perhaps more than 21oz!

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              zeuloa
              Raw and Unwashed
              Joined: 11 Dec 2020

              @BULLITT:

              @zeuloa:

              Oddly enough this happens to me with my feet as well… If I’m too warm I take socks off and I cool down and vice versa haha

              Ha! Same here, except I stick my feet out of the duvet when I sleep at night  😃

              I hope it works out for you with the 14oz jacket!  I'm personally starting to like the lighter denim from Iron Heart more and more, perhaps more than 21oz!

              Thanks! Actually I ordered the 21oz as they were out of the 14oz in my size.

              If you don’t mind, what about the lighter denim are you liking more?

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                zeuloa
                Raw and Unwashed
                Joined: 11 Dec 2020

                @Giles:

                It is definitely true that the 21oz denim breathes better than the 14oz denim.  I think though, that this is more apparent in jeans than jackets, there is something about the heft of a Type III made out of 21oz that makes you feel hot, I think it's physiological, but still…..

                Thanks @Giles… Looking forward to update on re-stocking of the XS in case the 21oz I ordered is too much to handle!

                Additionally, how does it age compared to the 21oz, and the 19oz for that matter (strength, drape, shrinkage if any, etc)?
                Just getting into this denim world and learning that weight isn’t everything from reading this forum and description of your jackets hehe

                Thanks!!!

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                  neph93
                  見習いボス
                  Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                  The 21oz becomes very, very soft and drapes beautifully. It will mould to your body well. Fading is slow to happen with this denim, however it is a rewarding process. The indigo becomes bruised at first, before fading gently. Eventually it shows the white and the general fading is a sight to behold. High contrast fades are not normal.

                  I don't have any 14oz so can't really help there.

                  “Some of those that work forces
                  Are the same that burn crosses”

                  • Virginia Woolf
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                    zeuloa
                    Raw and Unwashed
                    Joined: 11 Dec 2020

                    @neph93:

                    The 21oz becomes very, very soft and drapes beautifully. It will mould to your body well. Fading is slow to happen with this denim, however it is a rewarding process. The indigo becomes bruised at first, before fading gently. Eventually it shows the white and the general fading is a sight to behold. High contrast fades are not normal.

                    I don't have any 14oz so can't really help there.

                    Thanks! Your reply helps a lot as I was a bit concerned about the thickness… The nice fading is the cream on top as that’s not my main concern but it’s definitely a!+... I did see Giles’ first 21oz on insta and it looks amazing:

                    https://www.instagram.com/p/CCWCyzElGoG/?igshid=2ok2egk0zd3q

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                      David K.K. Hansen
                      Joined: 12 Nov 2014

                      @zeuloa:

                      If you don’t mind, what about the lighter denim are you liking more?

                      Good question, gave me lots to consider!  I think I'm attracted to the easiness of breaking in the 14oz, buttoning up and moving around. Actually I'd say there isn't any break-in period with 14oz jeans, just wear them and go! There are times in which I feel constricted with 21oz jeans, so the 14oz is a nice departure from the heaviness.

                      Then again the 21oz jeans become oh so soft and contort lovely to your body once you get past the break-in period.  I've been wearing Iron Heart 21oz jeans exclusively since 2013 (except summer, in which I wear non-Iron Heart shorts), so to then wear 14oz jeans feels, well, refreshing.  It’s nice to have choices and perhaps once my honeymoon phase with the 14oz. is over, I might go back to the heavy stuff again.

                      I just asked Giles on another thread what the top 3 most durable weights for jeans was in his opinion.  25oz and 14oz came at a 1st and 2nd place.  I've been eyeing the 25oz stuff for a while, so might give that a try sometime in 2021!

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                      • AdamJA
                        AdamJ
                        IHUK Crew
                        Joined: 29 Jun 2017

                        RESTOCK

                        Sizing chart has been updated

                        The devil is in the detail..

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                        • ChaintitchC
                          Chaintitch
                          Joined: 20 Nov 2013

                          Any idea on the next one @AdamJ ?

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                          • AlexA
                            Alex
                            IHUK Crew
                            Joined: 28 Sept 2009

                            Not until March sadly @Chain$titch

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                              hgering27
                              Raw and Unwashed
                              Joined: 16 Mar 2021

                              Still has a ways to go and the lighting doesn’t do justice in some spots but I’ve had this since March and it’s gotten a decent amount of wear. I try to wear as much as possible. Gets a lot of wear on dog walks and such…

                              instagram: @harrisongering

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                                going_to_battle
                                Joined: 16 Aug 2019

                                That’s beginning to look really nice  😎

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                                • denim-dawgD
                                  denim-dawg
                                  Iron Heart Deity
                                  Joined: 20 Oct 2021

                                  Hi! This jacket is stunning. Got the size 40, and even though it’s tight, I can layer t and a shirt/jumper underneath. Lots of fun breaking this in. Will it get bigger after tough wear? Should I soak it?

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                                    going_to_battle
                                    Joined: 16 Aug 2019

                                    That’s a really nice fit! It looks great.

                                    It won’t stretch much with wear, but it’ll soften and mould to your body more over time.

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                                      neph93
                                      見習いボス
                                      Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                      @denim-dawg:

                                      Will it get bigger after tough wear? Should I soak it?

                                      As stated it will «relax» rather than stretch meaningfully. No need to soak.

                                      “Some of those that work forces
                                      Are the same that burn crosses”

                                      • Virginia Woolf
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                                      • AdamJA
                                        AdamJ
                                        IHUK Crew
                                        Joined: 29 Jun 2017

                                        RESTOCKING AT 1600GMT ON WEDNESDAY 9TH MARCH

                                        The devil is in the detail..

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                                        • AdamCA
                                          AdamC
                                          IHUK Crew
                                          Joined: 12 Jan 2018

                                          Sizing chart slightly amended in first post in anticipation of restock tomorrow.  Shoulder dimensions are coming up a touch larger in this production run.

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