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IH-777S-21 - 21oz Selvedge Denim Slim Tapered Jeans - Indigo

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    neph93
    見習いボス
    Joined: 18 Aug 2014

    @SaddleSC:

    I then tried to pick the jeans with a waist size that matches that as closely as possible on the chart. Am I misunderstanding what a "true waist" measurement is?

    Well firstly, «true waist» as tailors use it is the slimmest part of the torso seen from the front, with the tape running just under the navel.

    Secondly, actual body metrics don’t necassarily correspond to the dimensions of clothing. For example, you don’t know how the size of the rise will affect the fit of the waist.

    The tried and tested method is to measure worn jeans you already own, that fit as you like, then factor in stretch and shrinkage when choosing the right IH tag size for you.

    “Some of those that work forces
    Are the same that burn crosses”

    • Virginia Woolf
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      neph93
      見習いボス
      Joined: 18 Aug 2014

      @SaddleSC:

      The cut on these is a bit different, but I did compare those measurements to my favorite pair of jeans and I am in the ballpark. I just didn't know how much stretch to accommodate for:)

      I’m sure you are. The 21oz will stretch at least an inch in the waist and 0.3-0.5” in the thigh.

      “Some of those that work forces
      Are the same that burn crosses”

      • Virginia Woolf
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        SaddleSC
        Haraki san Prodigy
        Joined: 22 Sept 2022

        @neph93:

        @SaddleSC:

        The cut on these is a bit different, but I did compare those measurements to my favorite pair of jeans and I am in the ballpark. I just didn't know how much stretch to accommodate for:)

        I’m sure you are. The 21oz will stretch at least an inch in the waist and 0.3-0.5” in the thigh.

        I really appreciate all your help! OK…one final question that is very specific just to boil my question down to its essence. The 666 appears to be a better fit for me when I consider the rise measurement. My favorite pair of selvage denim fits exactly the way I like after 5-8 wears. The waist measurement on those is 17.25" across, or 34.5" circumference.

        On the 666, if I choose tag size 34 the measurement chart shows 34.5" for the waist. However, if I buy a new pair of 666 21oz at the 34.5" waist right out of the package, then won't they be slightly too large after a few wears when we account for the stretch? All the other dimensions are spot on with my favorite pair of jeans, including the rise, thigh, knee and hem. Thanks!

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          neph93
          見習いボス
          Joined: 18 Aug 2014

          @SaddleSC:

          On the 666, if I choose tag size 34 the measurement chart shows 34.5" for the waist. However, if I buy a new pair of 666 21oz at the 34.5" waist right out of the package, then won't they be slightly too large after a few wears when we account for the stretch? All the other dimensions are spot on with my favorite pair of jeans, including the rise, thigh, knee and hem. Thanks!

          A 34.5” pair will likely end up at least 35.5”. So a belt would likely be of help.

          “Some of those that work forces
          Are the same that burn crosses”

          • Virginia Woolf
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            Crease
            Haraki san Expert
            Joined: 21 Oct 2021

            About to give these their first wash. About 10.5 months of wear, but mostly around the office. Was trying to see how long I could go, but it’s time! LOL

            Comparing with an unworn pair of 634S-A that I’ve been holding off wearing. About time to break those in too!

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              Crease
              Haraki san Expert
              Joined: 21 Oct 2021

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                ackoasis
                Raw and Unwashed
                Joined: 19 Apr 2021

                Random Question I know but does anyone else get pulled aside at the airport in security because their 21oz denim is to so thick?  😂 Every time they think I have something hidden and my jeans are empty.

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                  goosehd
                  Mod Squad
                  Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                  Very common and there are quite a few references on the forum about it.  I think some of us do it on purpose  😃

                  "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                    Jett129
                    見習いボス
                    Joined: 17 Aug 2011

                    Love the Iron Heart pat down!

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                      B_OneBomber
                      Joined: 4 Nov 2022

                      I'm going to order a pair of these and would like to get them hemmed right away.  I am pretty confident I will like the fit.  I have the 777 in the 14 oz indigo denim and I got about a half inch of shrink in the inseam after a few machine washes.  Always hang dried.  Can I expect about the same amount with the 21 oz denim?

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                        SKT
                        見習いボス
                        Joined: 26 Aug 2019

                        @B_OneBomber:

                        I got about a half inch of shrink in the inseam after a few machine washes.  Always hang dried.  Can I expect about the same amount with the 21 oz denim?

                        Mine had shrinkage right around there if I remember correctly. Maybe a bit less than 1/2”

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                          RoxRocks86
                          Raw and Unwashed
                          Joined: 2 Mar 2018

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                          An oldie, but goodie 🤘🏾

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                            goosehd
                            Mod Squad
                            Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                            Aloha Rox! Good to see you 🙂

                            "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                              RoxRocks86
                              Raw and Unwashed
                              @goosehd
                              Joined: 2 Mar 2018

                              @goosehd Hey Dennis, how’s it going?

                              I still browse the forums, just more as a creep lurking in the shadows these days 😎

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                                goosehd
                                Mod Squad
                                Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                                Always welcome Rox!!

                                "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                • LuscombeL
                                  Luscombe
                                  Joined: 5 Jul 2020

                                  I am looking for a pair of these in 35 tag.
                                  Any idea when they will restock? Last restock was about 6 months ago, November 2022.

                                  Noob
                                  IH777S

                                  last edited by 14 May 2023, 01:38 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • AlexA
                                    Alex
                                    IHUK Crew
                                    Joined: 28 Sept 2009

                                    Current ETA is August

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                                    • LuscombeL
                                      Luscombe
                                      Joined: 5 Jul 2020

                                      Thank you!

                                      Noob
                                      IH777S

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                                      • LuscombeL
                                        Luscombe
                                        Joined: 5 Jul 2020

                                        Hey, I found a pair of 35's at Withered Figs and ordered them. Got them today and they fit great. The top block is snug, knees and calves fine, thighs are a little loose maybe.

                                        I am looking forward to breaking these in. This selvedge denim is very intriguing to me. I am brand new to selvedge and in the past month have gone from 0 to 5 pairs. All different and all comfy/unique in their own way. The IH 777S fit me the best and I have the slubby's and now the 21 oz. I have my eye on the 777N and hope to snag a pair of those later this summer when they restock. Buying over the internet is a bit challenging until you get your size/dimensions worked out.

                                        I am beginning to get what this Selvedge is all about. Most of my time is spent in the office as a construction manager and business developer. My denim will never see the kind of use that some of you put yours through. I do expect these jeans to become more comfortable with age and last a long time.

                                        I'll post some photos later. I do appreciate the friendly atmosphere here on the forum.
                                        So much denim, so little time.

                                        Noob
                                        IH777S

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                                          A Former User
                                          @Luscombe
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                                          @Luscombe nice that you’ve founf a pair

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