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IH-777S-21 - 21oz Selvedge Denim Slim Tapered Jeans - Indigo

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    neph93
    見習いボス
    Joined: 18 Aug 2014

    @SaddleSC:

    I am leaning toward the 34 because the 777 is a slimmer fit overall and the extra room may result in a better fit. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

    Giles is absolutely right, true waist is a fairly meaningless metric when fitting jeans. As @manufc10 points out the low rise doesn’t sit at true waist, and this amongst other things renders the true waist measurement pointless. If you have jeans with a lower rise that fit well then measure them.

    “Some of those that work forces
    Are the same that burn crosses”

    • Virginia Woolf
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      SaddleSC
      Haraki san Prodigy
      Joined: 22 Sept 2022

      @neph93:

      @SaddleSC:

      I am leaning toward the 34 because the 777 is a slimmer fit overall and the extra room may result in a better fit. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

      Giles is absolutely right, true waist is a fairly meaningless metric when fitting jeans. As @manufc10 points out the low rise doesn’t sit at true waist, and this amongst other things renders the true waist measurement pointless. If you have jeans with a lower rise that fit well then measure them.

      Perhaps I was using the incorrect terminology…when I was referring to my "true waist" size, I meant that I took a tape measure and measured my waist where I am guessing the 777 would sit on my body, which is 34.75"

      I then tried to pick the jeans with a waist size that matches that as closely as possible on the chart. Am I misunderstanding what a "true waist" measurement is?

      The cut on these is a bit different, but I did compare those measurements to my favorite pair of jeans and I am in the ballpark. I just didn't know how much stretch to accommodate for:)

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        neph93
        見習いボス
        Joined: 18 Aug 2014

        @SaddleSC:

        I then tried to pick the jeans with a waist size that matches that as closely as possible on the chart. Am I misunderstanding what a "true waist" measurement is?

        Well firstly, «true waist» as tailors use it is the slimmest part of the torso seen from the front, with the tape running just under the navel.

        Secondly, actual body metrics don’t necassarily correspond to the dimensions of clothing. For example, you don’t know how the size of the rise will affect the fit of the waist.

        The tried and tested method is to measure worn jeans you already own, that fit as you like, then factor in stretch and shrinkage when choosing the right IH tag size for you.

        “Some of those that work forces
        Are the same that burn crosses”

        • Virginia Woolf
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          neph93
          見習いボス
          Joined: 18 Aug 2014

          @SaddleSC:

          The cut on these is a bit different, but I did compare those measurements to my favorite pair of jeans and I am in the ballpark. I just didn't know how much stretch to accommodate for:)

          I’m sure you are. The 21oz will stretch at least an inch in the waist and 0.3-0.5” in the thigh.

          “Some of those that work forces
          Are the same that burn crosses”

          • Virginia Woolf
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            SaddleSC
            Haraki san Prodigy
            Joined: 22 Sept 2022

            @neph93:

            @SaddleSC:

            The cut on these is a bit different, but I did compare those measurements to my favorite pair of jeans and I am in the ballpark. I just didn't know how much stretch to accommodate for:)

            I’m sure you are. The 21oz will stretch at least an inch in the waist and 0.3-0.5” in the thigh.

            I really appreciate all your help! OK…one final question that is very specific just to boil my question down to its essence. The 666 appears to be a better fit for me when I consider the rise measurement. My favorite pair of selvage denim fits exactly the way I like after 5-8 wears. The waist measurement on those is 17.25" across, or 34.5" circumference.

            On the 666, if I choose tag size 34 the measurement chart shows 34.5" for the waist. However, if I buy a new pair of 666 21oz at the 34.5" waist right out of the package, then won't they be slightly too large after a few wears when we account for the stretch? All the other dimensions are spot on with my favorite pair of jeans, including the rise, thigh, knee and hem. Thanks!

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              neph93
              見習いボス
              Joined: 18 Aug 2014

              @SaddleSC:

              On the 666, if I choose tag size 34 the measurement chart shows 34.5" for the waist. However, if I buy a new pair of 666 21oz at the 34.5" waist right out of the package, then won't they be slightly too large after a few wears when we account for the stretch? All the other dimensions are spot on with my favorite pair of jeans, including the rise, thigh, knee and hem. Thanks!

              A 34.5” pair will likely end up at least 35.5”. So a belt would likely be of help.

              “Some of those that work forces
              Are the same that burn crosses”

              • Virginia Woolf
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                Crease
                Haraki san Expert
                Joined: 21 Oct 2021

                About to give these their first wash. About 10.5 months of wear, but mostly around the office. Was trying to see how long I could go, but it’s time! LOL

                Comparing with an unworn pair of 634S-A that I’ve been holding off wearing. About time to break those in too!

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                  Crease
                  Haraki san Expert
                  Joined: 21 Oct 2021

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                    ackoasis
                    Raw and Unwashed
                    Joined: 19 Apr 2021

                    Random Question I know but does anyone else get pulled aside at the airport in security because their 21oz denim is to so thick?  😂 Every time they think I have something hidden and my jeans are empty.

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                      goosehd
                      Mod Squad
                      Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                      Very common and there are quite a few references on the forum about it.  I think some of us do it on purpose  😃

                      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                        Jett129
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                        Joined: 17 Aug 2011

                        Love the Iron Heart pat down!

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                        • B_OneBomberB
                          B_OneBomber
                          Joined: 4 Nov 2022

                          I'm going to order a pair of these and would like to get them hemmed right away.  I am pretty confident I will like the fit.  I have the 777 in the 14 oz indigo denim and I got about a half inch of shrink in the inseam after a few machine washes.  Always hang dried.  Can I expect about the same amount with the 21 oz denim?

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                          • SKTS
                            SKT
                            見習いボス
                            Joined: 26 Aug 2019

                            @B_OneBomber:

                            I got about a half inch of shrink in the inseam after a few machine washes.  Always hang dried.  Can I expect about the same amount with the 21 oz denim?

                            Mine had shrinkage right around there if I remember correctly. Maybe a bit less than 1/2”

                            last edited by 8 Nov 2022, 16:15 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • RoxRocks86R
                              RoxRocks86
                              Raw and Unwashed
                              Joined: 2 Mar 2018

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                              An oldie, but goodie 🤘🏾

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                                goosehd
                                Mod Squad
                                Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                                Aloha Rox! Good to see you 🙂

                                "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                • RoxRocks86R
                                  RoxRocks86
                                  Raw and Unwashed
                                  @goosehd
                                  Joined: 2 Mar 2018

                                  @goosehd Hey Dennis, how’s it going?

                                  I still browse the forums, just more as a creep lurking in the shadows these days 😎

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                                    goosehd
                                    Mod Squad
                                    Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                                    Always welcome Rox!!

                                    "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

                                    last edited by 22 Feb 2023, 21:24 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • LuscombeL
                                      Luscombe
                                      Joined: 5 Jul 2020

                                      I am looking for a pair of these in 35 tag.
                                      Any idea when they will restock? Last restock was about 6 months ago, November 2022.

                                      Noob
                                      IH777S

                                      last edited by 14 May 2023, 01:38 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • AlexA
                                        Alex
                                        IHUK Crew
                                        Joined: 28 Sept 2009

                                        Current ETA is August

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                                        • LuscombeL
                                          Luscombe
                                          Joined: 5 Jul 2020

                                          Thank you!

                                          Noob
                                          IH777S

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