The Real McCoys
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Thanks. It was a bit of a stretch but I’m really enjoying it.
That Jacket perfect all around !
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I picked up a pair of Lot.001xx from S&S — I was really psyched about checking these out, but I'm really leaning towards sending them back now. I knew it'd be a trad cut, which I've been way into lately, but the top block is SO billowy it's almost like a pantaloon type thing happening.
I'm curious how much they'd shrink, but it's not a risk I really wanna take. I understand they can come in quite a bit in the waistband but will stretch back out — my biggest concern is how much they'd shrink in the top block, and tbh it couldn't be that much. I got a size 33, and I think sizing down to a 32 would maybe be too tight in the waist after a shrink.
Anyway, debating it but like I said, leaning towards just returning em. If anybody's got any experience with these jeans, I'd be curious to hear how it went for you. The denim looks and feels incredible, but the fit's just really too loose for me, as far as I can tell.
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These jeans are going to shrink quite a bit everywhere. It's hard to say how they will fit afterward, much depending on the water temperature and agitation. When I was a kid we'd get them big and wash them hot. (I mean comparable ones, not Real McCoys.) But if you wash them of course there's no returning them. Most jeans once fit like this–-then again Roger Bannister was also the world's best miler and Brando didn't yet look like a hydrogen air ship.
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Cool, I figured — it's pretty wild though because I've found all kinds of varying information about how much they shrink. Some people have suggested that the 2" shrinkage listed on the RMC site is because that includes a trip through the dryer, which I am not gonna do (not really interested in that, ever).
I've never had a pair of jeans shrink more than an inch, even on a hot soak. The only time I got any kind of really drastic shrinkage was when my washer taps were accidentally installed reversed and a pair of unsanforized PBJs got a very very hot wash. They were kinda snug to begin with, so they officially became a lost cause. Other than that, they always shrink less than I expect and tend to stretch back out, so I dunno?
Mari and Gen from S&S are gonna get back to me on what they think. My plan is to size down 1, but I'll wait for their advice to make my final decision. I saw Neil mention on a Superfuture thread that Gen had a pair years ago and didn't size down, but he didn't elaborate on how that worked out for him. I feel like that'll be some useful info.
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FWIW this is what they look like. Call me crazy but they really feel like Hammer pants haha.
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To be honest that's my biggest concern. The waist now is pretty nice but it could be tighter… so I'd be psyched if it shrank down a good bit and then stretched out a little, but not to where it is now. If it went back to this current fit, it'd be a little too big for my taste. I'm thinking if I do end up keeping these, a good hot soak is the way to go, so I can ensure max shrinkage.
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To be honest that's my biggest concern. The waist now is pretty nice but it could be tighter… so I'd be psyched if it shrank down a good bit and then stretched out a little, but not to where it is now. If it went back to this current fit, it'd be a little too big for my taste. I'm thinking if I do end up keeping these, a good hot soak is the way to go, so I can ensure max shrinkage.
Thank you @sabergirl! Every bit of this is super helpful!
EDIT dammit I hit quote instead of modify, sorry for the double post
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I think you should hot soak with agitation, or if you can stand it, soak them with your shower head inside-out then throw them in a hot wash cycle, no spin.
You sound way more cautious with your denim than myself, but especially with shrink to fit that feels baggy, I would make sure they’re real wet, then wash in the machine and tumble dry. Always inside-out. It’s the only way to really ensure maximum shrink and no surprises.
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Alright, that sounds like a good plan for the washing machine, because it can definitely get really hot. I guess I've always just strayed from the dryer because I'm tall and never wanna lose too much length. I like to be able to double cuff, so I'm usually shooting for like a 34" inseam.
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New Jacket day Nelson
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Ha! I just got one of those, too — you and I have a lot of crossover
Looks great on you, man. What do you think of it? I love mine.
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Ha! I just got one of those, too — you and I have a lot of crossover
Looks great on you, man. What do you think of it? I love mine.
Really ! Crazy I’m loving it … and thanks can’t wait to wear the hell out of it lol
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Yeah man I’ve been wearing mine around the house during the day in the AC so I can get a little action starting to happen with it. Really psyched to see how it breaks in, and dreaming of cooler weather!
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Yeah man I’ve been wearing mine around the house during the day in the AC so I can get a little action starting to happen with it. Really psyched to see how it breaks in, and dreaming of cooler weather!
Same lol post up a pic when ya get a second
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So I swapped these 001XX for a size 32 and am beyond glad I did, what a perfect fit these are. The raw measurements were a little closer to 34" in the waist like RMC London's chart, vs S&S's at 33". They fit great raw so I was a little concerned about shrinkage, so I cold soaked — turns out that didn't really do anything at all, so I went ahead and gave em a hot soak. Some shrink, but also minimal, just tightened up everywhere they needed to (mostly top block). They're super comfortable and I'm stoked to wear em a lot. It should be noted that a lot of conversation online in various forums chalks up some of the ridiculous RMC shrink figures to a hot soak AND a trip through the dryer. EDIT looks like I already mentioned that back in the initial post about these, but I think definitely worth restating for anyone looking to buy a pair of RMCs.
Also pictured: Nelson, FW Cassady shirt
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Solid fit @popvulture and I dig the jacket (yours too @theorocks )–if I were to buy a leather jacket anytime soon it would be that style, single-breasted and sort of cafe racerish in the body but with lapels. It takes some of the motorcycle-ness out of it.
Long been an admirer of the Cassady shirt. The namesake is such an interesting figure who lived a remarkable life and they did a great tribute to him with that shirt.
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Gorgeous fit, @popvulture
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@henry_david thanks so much man!!! Yeah the jacket is really killer, can't wait to get some character on it. I've got a Perfecto that I love, but I wanted another leather jacket for a little more toned down option.
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