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    • Bfd70B
      Bfd70
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      Sizing question regarding 25 oz.
      Details state waist will shrink an inch with washing but will stretch an inch with wear.
      Should i buy a pair with the listed waist as close to the desired waist as possible?

      Also, generally speaking is it safe to assume the 1” stretch is a sort of average? I’d assume 40” waist and 28” waist would not stretch the same total amount but rather the same relative amount. Is this logic flawed. At a 29” waist 1” makes a big difference.

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        1” of stretch is in there, no matter what size you are. If the denim is placed under pressure, it may stretch that amount.

        Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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        • neph93N
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          @Bfd70:

          Sizing question regarding 25 oz.
          Details state waist will shrink an inch with washing but will stretch an inch with wear.
          Should i buy a pair with the listed waist as close to the desired waist as possible?

          Also, generally speaking is it safe to assume the 1” stretch is a sort of average? I’d assume 40” waist and 28” waist would not stretch the same total amount but rather the same relative amount. Is this logic flawed. At a 29” waist 1” makes a big difference.

          Good questions… I'd say the stated 1" waist shrinkage is more of an upper limit, stated for safety's sake. I have had XHS in w35, w34 and w33 and have consistently got 0.5-0.7" shrinkage. Never have I had 1". I tend to soak in very warm water and/or wash afterwards. You can dig in the XHS threads for mine and others documentation. They will stretch an inch for sure.

          You're right that shrinkage can be estimated as a percentage of length... but when stretch works the same way, it's all relative.

          In short, yes, you should order somewhere around your desired waist, possibly a little under, rather than over.

          “Some of those that work forces
          Are the same that burn crosses”

          • Virginia Woolf
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          • Bfd70B
            Bfd70
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            Thanks for the replies. Are you both soaking prior to first wear?

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            • neph93N
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              @Bfd70:

              Thanks for the replies. Are you both soaking prior to first wear?

              I didn't on my first pair (666-XHS, w35), because they were really tight in the leg. The strategy was to stretch them first before the wash. It sort of worked but I ended up having to wash them earlier than planned because  a two year old with rota-virus happened (man that was a lot of puke). The struggle to relax the thing after that was real.

              My current two pairs (IH-888-XHSib, w33 and my brand new IH-888-XHS, w34), I soaked to get it all out first. Same deal with my PIH10ANT. At the end of the day, they are going to shrink when subjected to heat, water and agitation and that is going to happen at some point. Likewise, they are going to stretch when you wear them. You might as well get all that out of the way first.

              “Some of those that work forces
              Are the same that burn crosses”

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              • Bfd70B
                Bfd70
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                Sort of nerve racking. I want to add 25oz to the rotation this year but it’s a lot to drop and then be dissatisfied with the results… 😞

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                  @Bfd70 I have a little different strategy,which has worked for me. I get the waist size closest to what I need to possibly a little over,so as not to have to rely on stretching for them to be comfortable. I soak,then throw them in the washing machine,then put them into the dryer,and get it over with. I go an extra half inch in the length,just in case. I like stacks and cuffs,so I don’t care if they’re too long. For me if an article of clothing is not comfortable, it probably isn’t looking good on me either,and I’m not going to wear it. Just my 2 cents.

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                  • Bfd70B
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                    Makes total sense. I think part of my issue is that I’m buying at a smaller waist size. The finished product needs to be right around 30”. At that size 1” too big makes more of an issue proportionally speaking than 1” too big at 38”.

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                    • J
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                      Fortunately your dealing with a company and staff that are patiently happy to go the extra mile to help find you the perfect fitting pair of jeans.

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                      • neph93N
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                        @Bfd70:

                        Makes total sense. I think part of my issue is that I’m buying at a smaller waist size. The finished product needs to be right around 30”. At that size 1” too big makes more of an issue proportionally speaking than 1” too big at 38”.

                        I totally understand the nerves. If you need a 30” waist the buy a pair with true measurements of 29.5”-30”. The guys will help you with that. They are experts at it.

                        “Some of those that work forces
                        Are the same that burn crosses”

                        • Virginia Woolf
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                        • PalmerP
                          Palmer
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                          Is the black x black 14oz Type 3 exclusive to Self Edge? It'd be cool to get one in 4XL but they don't carry my size.

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                          • GilesG
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                            We gave SE the lead on this.  We will be making it and offering to other retailers.  mJust need to get the denim remade, which we are waiting for that, we are doing an indigo/black version…...

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            • motojoboboM
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                              I’ve reached a point where I’d like to start wearing rings which speak to the day ahead. Never wore them before, other than a very low key standard wedding band. I’d like to read up on ‘everything bout rings’ before I get my first GAH one.
                              I’d be very happy to get recommendations here on what is interesting ring reading material. Thanks!

                              The journey is the objective.

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                              • GilesG
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                                Here….

                                https://www.ironheart.co.uk/good-art-hlywd2/

                                😃 😃 😃 😃 😃 😃 😃

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                • DstaufferD
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                                  I personally cannot recommend highly enough…while the only ring (other than my wedding band) is an IH ring,
                                  I have GA necklaces, bracelet, and clips (oh, and masks) and it’s all the highest quality.

                                  Josh is the best (well, maybe tied with Giles)  and every item they make is amazing...you really can’t go wrong!

                                  You won’t be satisfied until you wear Iron Heart.

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                                  • GilesG
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                                    @Dstauffer:

                                    Josh is the best (well, maybe tied with Giles)

                                    That is very kind of you, but seriously the extent of my creativity is limited to telling people how large the fish I lost were….. 😉

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    • cityofdelusionC
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                                      I'm sure it has been (as always) asked many times before… But which of the following is the one that keeps the "warmest" (based on the breathability, thickness and etc.) if we had to put them in an order? (warmest > y > ... > coldest)

                                      634S-21
                                      634-XHS
                                      634S-142
                                      634-XHSib
                                      634S-142ib

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                                      • GilesG
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                                        634-XHSib
                                        634-XHS
                                        634S-142ib
                                        634S-142
                                        634S-21

                                        Would be my guess

                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                        • PollyP
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                                          Can I ask a leather question here? (Mods, forgive me if there is another thread for this - and feel free to throw me over there instead.)

                                          Is leather dyeing a thing? Does anyone know of a reputable place in the UK (pref. London) I could get some tan leather darkened?

                                          Or am I talking complete nonsense?

                                          Thanks all…

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                                          • neph93N
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                                            Perfect thread choice @Polly.  It is a thing, but who could do it for you is beyond me. I’d get in touch with Simmons Bilt. They are friends of IH, based in Scotland and I’d imagine they know someone.

                                            “Some of those that work forces
                                            Are the same that burn crosses”

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