Good Art Hollywood
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@daltmeyer:
@manufc10 indeed that's a 24" Frisco chain.
Thought so. Thanks.
The Frisco is going to be my next chain purchase. I've got a curb chain and two ball chains and I've been eyeballing the Frisco chain forever now.
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I have a genuine question about this brand: Why are the items they sell priced so high?
They make a nice product, but they traditional just use silver which is not a very expensive metal… Yet the price on their items is in the thousands.... I could buy pounds of silver for that price.
Is it the craftsmanship on the items that is driving the price up? Or the brand itself just being marketed as being very expensive?
Thanks!
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There’s goes a saying buy cheap stuff many times over and over again , or buy expensive once.
If you can find me a better artisan than Josh, I would move from this brand most likely you won’t, it premium
even the celebrity are wearing it…It a unique and worn by rebel’s
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There’s goes a saying buy cheap stuff many times over and over again , or by expensive once.
If you can find me a better artisan than Josh, I would move from this brand most likely you won’t, it premium
even the celebrity are wearing it…It a unique and worn by rebel’s
Here's an example of what I'm talking about….
This bracelet would cost $1300.00 if good art sold it:
I'm just wondering why that is the case. The material is the same, and the finishing on the item appears to be comparable... It just seems like a wild markup. I'm trying to understand the jewelry world here. What makes good art justifiably 4x more than this bracelet?
Thanks
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Do some Googling and find interviews with Josh….
These almost look the same as Iron Heart.....
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And a Ferrari is just aluminum, steel, carbon fiber, and fiberglass. Same principle. It’s not just materials, it’s the skill, time, and technology that goes into it.
Edited to add: Giles beat me to it w his fishing rod analogy but I’ve owned my fair share of high end silver and GoodArt is by far the best I’ve seen. I’ve sold my King Baby, John Hardy, Konstantino, and even an IH piece to by more GA. The pieces have character, style, and shit hot quality.
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At the risk of being facetious GAH would never make that bracelet.
For starters, the design of the chain links and head is traditional South East Asian. You can buy that sort of thing on Bali for even less than they are asking here. Why? Because the silver is not great quality and even less expensive and because the makers there are probably trained as kids to do one thing and one thing only. They then spend their life casting those links and getting paid not a lot. The same goes for the heads.
GAH links are individually cast, out of excellent quality silver. They are individually treated to the level that some designs are individually stamped. All the GAH gear is made in LA by a small team of highly skilled craftsmen. That Hollywood address, attention to detail and level of proficiency adds a bit to your overheads.
Secondly, go and compare that clasp to a GAH clasp. It may be four times the price but a GAH clasp is 100 times better.
There’s a thirdly, fourthly, and a whole load morely, but I’ll jump to finally… everything GAH does is art as well as artisanal. There is wit, humour, function in counterpoint with luxury in what they do. It is witchcraft as much as it is handcraft. And while they are often inspired by design staples, everything they do is original.
You can go to Walmart to buy an art print to hang on your wall, but an original piece by a talented artist, is going to cost you.
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My kids going back to school in September, i will book you a place, you going
back to the workshop
Look like you outnumber against rebel’s here
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That Etsy shop piece is all precast off the shelf stuff. Cant compare it honestly.
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At the risk of being facetious GAH would never make that bracelet.
For starters, the design of the chain links and head is traditional South East Asian. You can buy that sort of thing on Bali for even less than they are asking here. Why? Because the silver is not great quality and even less expensive and because the makers there are probably trained as kids to do one thing and one thing only. They then spend their life casting those links and getting paid not a lot. The same goes for the heads.
GAH links are individually cast, out of excellent quality silver. They are individually treated to the level that some designs are individually stamped. All the GAH gear is made in LA by a small team of highly skilled craftsmen. That Hollywood address and and level of proficiency adds a bit to your overheads.
Secondly, go and compare that clasp to a GAH clasp. It may be four times the price but a GAH clasp is 100 times better.
There’s a thirdly, fourthly, and a whole load morely, but I’ll jump to finally… everything GAH does is art as well as artisanal. There is wit, humour, function in counterpoint with luxury in what they do. It is witchcraft as much as it is handcraft. And while they are often inspired by design staples, everything they do is original.
You can go to Walmart to buy an art print to hang on your wall, but an original piece by a a talented artist, is going to cost you.
This makes a lot of sense.. so it's being treated more along the lines of an artistic creation as opposed to a mass produced item. I always express skepticism whenever I see the intrinsic value of the materials used in construction to be far far far less than the produced item.
But that skepticism goes out the window with art…. Take for example: the materials used in a Picasso are probably 50 bucks, yet the painting can be worth 50 million. It makes sense now. I didn't understand the artistic one of a kind creating that they are doing.
I can definitely get behind that.
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At the risk of being facetious GAH would never make that bracelet.
This^^
No offense to anyone who may own that bracelet or likes that bracelet but to me it just looks cheap, gaudy, outdated, and has an aura of trying a little too hard if that makes sense. In addition to all of the things others have mentioned above….at the end of the day I just love the style and design of GAH jewelry. No other brand out there catches my eye like GA. Plain and simple. It's original, unique, and timeless. I also love the west coast/Mexican influenced flair you will find in some pieces like the Jimmy Cross and Sacred Heart pendant. It speaks to me.
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Lol, I won a bracelet like that in a pool game in Phnom Penh about 20 years ago. Used it to pay for a tuk-tuk ride about a month later.
I'm sorry but it seems an odd question for the IH forum. This whole place advocates for items whose quality and artisanal nature set them far above their respective peer groups. They are designed and made by experienced people who take their craft to an entirely different level. Commodities these are not and their prices reflect the time invested, experience accumulated, and respect earned.
Apart from the incredible workmanship, unique (sometimes whimsical) designs, and robust build quality, I love GAH especially for the people behind the brand. Josh and Rachel are amazing individuals and great human beings. It the same relationship I have with my independent watchmaker friends. You may initially enter this world for the products but you stay for the people.
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What a fantastic post @Manticore. Thank you.
I find your concluding sentence, both heartwarming and true:
You may initially enter this world for the products but you stay for the people.
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That last sentence is great…...
What a fantastic post @Manticore. Thank you.
I find your concluding sentence, both heartwarming and true:
You may initially enter this world for the products but you stay for the people.
Same with Ironheart…
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Hi All,
Apologies if this should be somewhere else and please move if needed.
So I'm looking at getting a ball chain necklace.
Here is where I need your help.
Looking for a necklace to hang my late mother's wedding band on, so I'm leaning towards a #3 because the ring is small and thin, BUT I may want to add one of my father's rings to it in the future. I plan on wearing them like a rondel, not on the clasp I'll be explaining below.
Also, I'd like to have some sort of secure clasp or something to place my rings on when not wearing them.
So, can you recommend some ball chain clasp combinations that would fit my needs?
And I'm thinking of 24 length so it doesn't slip over my head when swimming.
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Thank. What size clip 8 would you recommend?
I don't want something too big and bulky, but can hold a men's wedding band/ring and a signet ring. Someone I talked to a while ago suggested the AA, but I wasn't able to see it or the other sizes in person.
I'll see if I can post a picture of my rings for sizing.
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