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    IH-777S-21 - 21oz Selvedge Denim Slim Tapered Jeans - Indigo

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    • J
      jordanf
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      Sizing advice needed.

      I am currently breaking in a pair of 666S-BK 21 in a tag size 33 with an actual waist of 33.1. Have worn them daily around the house etc for the last 10 days or so. They have stretched out to 34 (my actual waist is 34) and sit nicely with me able to get a thumb in at each hip (could wear them without a belt and wouldnt want them any tighter).

      Was looking at picking up a pair of 777's and am struggling with sizing. Was thinking of going a 33 which has an actual waist of 33.6 but am afraid they will keep stretching and become too big.

      Thoughts?

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      • neph93N
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        A pair starting at 33.6” will stretch past your 666’s. In fact, in the 21oz  they would probably end up around 35”.

        Either size down or see if the crew in Gosport can find some tagged 33’s with a smaller waist.

        Another option would be looking at other 777 iterations. Different denim’s have different starting measurements and shrink/stretch tendencies.

        “Some of those that work forces
        Are the same that burn crosses”

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          jordanf
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          @neph93:

          A pair starting at 33.6” will stretch past your 666’s. In fact, in the 21oz  they would probably end up around 35”.

          Either size down or see if the crew in Gosport can find some tagged 33’s with a smaller waist.

          Another option would be looking at other 777 iterations. Different denim’s have different starting measurements and shrink/stretch tendencies.

          Thanks for the quick reply man. Yeeeah in my heart of hearts I think the same. Wish they had something a little smaller, say 33.2 or something as a size down could be getting a little tight right?

          Have been in touch with them and all they have is the 33 with an actual of 33.6.

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          • neph93N
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            I don’t know what your tolerances are, but you can expect the indigo 21oz to stretch over an inch in the waist and at least .3” in the thigh. Maybe .5”. It will be slightly stretchier than your 666.

            “Some of those that work forces
            Are the same that burn crosses”

            • Virginia Woolf
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            • J
              JES600
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              @jordanf:

              Sizing advice needed.

              I am currently breaking in a pair of 666S-BK 21 in a tag size 33 with an actual waist of 33.1. Have worn them daily around the house etc for the last 10 days or so. They have stretched out to 34 (my actual waist is 34) and sit nicely with me able to get a thumb in at each hip (could wear them without a belt and wouldnt want them any tighter).

              Was looking at picking up a pair of 777's and am struggling with sizing. Was thinking of going a 33 which has an actual waist of 33.6 but am afraid they will keep stretching and become too big.

              Thoughts?

              @jordanf

              My recent experience with the 777S-21:

              As measured by me, new before wear (size 31)
              Waist 31.6" Thigh 11.45" Hip 3" up from crotch 19.5"

              After 20 wears, 12-14 hours per day
              Waist 32.75" Thigh 11.8" Hip 20.1"

              Just remeasured the waist. Yesterday was 40 wears. 32.8". So it appears the stretch has settled down to about 1.2". These fit me quite tight at the waist, which I like. Thumbs barely in the waistband. Also, I don't wear a belt.

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              • neph93N
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                ^ Excellent documentation. @jordanf if you can manage the knee and thigh then see if the crew can find a slightly bigger tag 32.

                “Some of those that work forces
                Are the same that burn crosses”

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                • xtcclassicX
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                  I’ve managed to get 2” of stretch in the waist out of the 21oz denim, so it can be done.

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                  • neph93N
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                    @xtcclassic:

                    I’ve managed to get 2” of stretch in the waist out of the 21oz denim, so it can be done.

                    For sure.

                    “Some of those that work forces
                    Are the same that burn crosses”

                    • Virginia Woolf
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                      Although 21oz definitely stretches just as much as all these fine gents have noted, I think it bears mentioning that the 777 is a cut that sits on an entirely different place on your body. The lower rise sits down on your hips further, so more room may be needed, IMO.

                      I tried on a 777 once at a retailer, though, so I don’t have extensive experience with the cut.

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                      • neph93N
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                        I was going to mention that… if it was the 555 or 888 we were comparing to, then I would have but I’m not sure the difference in rise between the 666 and 777 is that great.

                        “Some of those that work forces
                        Are the same that burn crosses”

                        • Virginia Woolf
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                          I think it’s close to an inch on the back rise, which to me is significant. Although I can’t really wear either of these cuts because of the thigh measurements, so I’m putting my nose in where it probably doesn’t belong. [emoji23]

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                          • neph93N
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                            I try not to put my nose anywhere near a low back rise… [emoji15]

                            “Some of those that work forces
                            Are the same that burn crosses”

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                              Haha, ewww

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                              • GilesG
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                                Not what Hotty told me….

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                • neph93N
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                                  @Giles:

                                  Not what Hotty told me….

                                  Only on her birthday mind.

                                  “Some of those that work forces
                                  Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                  • GilesG
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                                    Lucky girl….

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    • RoxRocks86R
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                                      Decapitated update pics. Definitely no brown nosing the lower rise here…

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                                        Decapitated update pics. Definitely no brown nosing the lower rise here…

                                        Great fades like always @RoxRocks86 –--

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                                          @RoxRocks86 your fades of the 21oz are some of the nicest out there - kudos.

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                                            jordanf
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                                            @JES600:

                                            @jordanf:

                                            Sizing advice needed.

                                            I am currently breaking in a pair of 666S-BK 21 in a tag size 33 with an actual waist of 33.1. Have worn them daily around the house etc for the last 10 days or so. They have stretched out to 34 (my actual waist is 34) and sit nicely with me able to get a thumb in at each hip (could wear them without a belt and wouldnt want them any tighter).

                                            Was looking at picking up a pair of 777's and am struggling with sizing. Was thinking of going a 33 which has an actual waist of 33.6 but am afraid they will keep stretching and become too big.

                                            Thoughts?

                                            @jordanf

                                            My recent experience with the 777S-21:

                                            As measured by me, new before wear (size 31)
                                            Waist 31.6" Thigh 11.45" Hip 3" up from crotch 19.5"

                                            After 20 wears, 12-14 hours per day
                                            Waist 32.75" Thigh 11.8" Hip 20.1"

                                            Just remeasured the waist. Yesterday was 40 wears. 32.8". So it appears the stretch has settled down to about 1.2". These fit me quite tight at the waist, which I like. Thumbs barely in the waistband. Also, I don't wear a belt.

                                            @JES600

                                            Appreciate the detailed breakdown man and everyone else's response. Seems like my gut feeling that the 33.6 waist will be too big is a good one.

                                            Have signed up for notification on a size down (which would hopefully come in a little larger than the measurements) so will wait for an update on that.

                                            In the meantime I need to distract myself from eyeing up a wabash shirt (indigo)  😃

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