IH-777N - 17oz Selvedge Denim Super-Slim Tapered Cut Jeans - Natural Indigo

[neph93]

@tecnica222:

Any idea when these will be restocked?

Possibly not ever. They are not listed as being in continuous production so if the denim is all gone I can’t see another batch being made. @Giles  will be able to confirm but he is in the air for the next few hours, on his way to Japan.

[Giles]

Whoops.  That is a screw up, email alerts have now been enabled.  A restock is due in the UK within the next 2 weeks.  I have left it as seasonal or limited for the moment as I am not sure if we have any more denim.  @Alex ?

[tecnica222]

What do people think about the feel of this denim vs the 21-oz in the 777-21? Similar softness, breatheability, etc? I have a pair of 21-oz (IHxB01)and 18-oz (633SII), but no experience with this 17-oz.

[Giles]

Probably slightly less breathable…Fades really great given time.

[neph93]

Very different denim. The 17oz is crisper, tighter, slightly textured too. As G says, the fades are ace.

[Alex]

RESTOCK

[Sam]

In the wild
Sam wears a tag 32

[manufc10]

These look so good to me and I don't know why this fabric seems to fly under the radar.  I'm glad to see a restock on these and I still plan on picking up a pair in the future.

[JES600]

I'm really liking my 777S-21 jeans. At this point, they're my favorite jeans ever. The fit, the texture, the color. I'm thinking I'd like another 777 cut.

Question for those familiar with both materials: Would this 17oz material be a good contrast to the 21oz? Is it dramatically different? How about stretch - similar?

[Giles]

It's similar but noticeably lighter.  Similar stretch, possibly a tad less…

[Jett129]

And that slight decrease in the weight of the fabric makes them a great Summer/warm weather jean.

[neph93]

@JES600:

Question for those familiar with both materials: Would this 17oz material be a good contrast to the 21oz? Is it dramatically different? How about stretch - similar?

They are both indigo denim designed by the same guy so dramatic difference is relative. But sure they are quite different given the narrowness of the comparison.

The 17oz has a tighter weave, and does not stretch with the same ease. It is drier and thinner to the hand, the indigo seems thicker and darker. The fading and wear is different too.

I had to sell me 555N as the waist was too big for me but I seem to remember that with wear the denim becomes neppy which was mental because it starts out very uniform, smooth and flat, but it develops a great character.

I enjoyed it a lot for the time I owned a pair.

[JES600]

Thanks to all for the quick and informed responses.

@Giles I'll send a message about sizing. Does organic cotton differ from non-organic in terms of form and function?

@Jett129 I was thinking that as well. It can get pretty warm here in Michigan. I'm not against shorts, but in A/C environments I prefer jeans.

@neph93 Great answer, especially about the narrowness of comparison. I have jeans from another manufacturer that fit very close to these and I like them a lot too. They are truly dramatically different (slubby and rough). I'm still interested in the IH family though, just a different family member.

Your comment about the denim evolving and becoming neppier is very interesting. By drier, do you also mean crisper? The thicker indigo will get me in trouble. I already got scolded for transferring indigo from my new 21 oz jeans from my bare legs to the bed sheets lol.

[Giles]

@JES600:

Does organic cotton differ from non-organic in terms of form and function?

Not materially…..(pun intended)

[neph93]

I don’t  really do much denim outside of IH and I have, or have had, most of them. Never have I bought a new IH denim and thought «oh shit, these are too similar to that other IH denim». But Haraki-san is not a fan of slub, and likes an even hand, so there often some similarities. Otherwise weight, hand, fading, pattern etc are all pleasingly different from denim to denim.

[JES600]

Some photos comparing unworn 777N and 777S-21 worn daily for three weeks. Definitely different. I like the 777N. It's exactly what I wanted, which is a contrast to the 777S-21 with the same fit. I really like the deeper richer indigo.

The last photo is a bit blurry, but it shows the hairiness, as well as the beginnings of fade along the pocket stitching of the 777S-21.

[neph93]

^ Well done that man. If these ever come in the 888 I’ll bag a pair.

[JES600]

I couldn't find this answered elsewhere. Why no lined rear pockets on this model? I really don't mind. Just curious.

[Giles]

I guess that when we were speccing them, we forgot to include lined rear pockets as a requirement, or if we did it was missed…..And then we did not notice that the pockets were unlined when we approved the sample........

A simple sequence of small mistakes is the root cause of even the most major accidents......

[JES600]

Update on the jeans I posted about previously in this thread. The sun came out a little today, so I decided to put these on after washing last month (first and only wash - they needed it) and try to get some pics. I struggled to get any that show the contrast and coloring as well as they look in person.

Probably not as striking as some of the other denims like the XHR. But it's unlike any denim I've ever seen. I wore these about 95% of the time shown, so at least 215 wears. Like the description says, slow fading, but with great contrast. I have a new pair I may start working on, because these may be saved for special occasions as they're at great point in their evolution (IMO).
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