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    • ?
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      SBG Ihj-60 might be nice…

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      • Alex_24A
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        @AdamJ:

        I regularly talk about my want for a CPO made from SBG denim.

        What would your ideal CPO fabric be? Can be as wild as you want!

        The 21oz. Black Wabash from the logger pants, the 17oz. Hickory Stripe from the painters pants, the 14oz. Indigo Kersey, or the 13oz. Serge in a dark red would all be fantastic options in my opinion.

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        • Alex_24A
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          @adam313:

          SBG Ihj-60 might be nice…

          Definitely an instant classic [emoji106]

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          • David K.K. HansenD
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            @UnTucked:

            Example:
            SBG pea coat or M-65 would have definitely been a no-brainer for me

            Yes please.  But how about a 14oz SBG, has that been discussed with Haraki?

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            • ?
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              @Alex_24:

              @adam313:

              SBG Ihj-60 might be nice…

              Definitely an instant classic [emoji106]

              The 21oz SBG or even the 21oz wabash  😎

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              • GilesG
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                @Alex_24:

                @adam313:

                SBG Ihj-60 might be nice…

                Definitely an instant classic [emoji106]

                Will also end up on the sale rail…

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                • GilesG
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                  Example:
                  SBG pea coat or M-65 would have definitely been a no-brainer for me

                  Yes please.  But how about a 14oz SBG, has that been discussed with Haraki?

                  The 14oz bb is very similar to SBG, so no way will we create something with such a close similarity…

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • GilesG
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                    Going live Friday…...

                    USD100

                    Can be GOOD ART HLYWD snap pimped….

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                    • ?
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                      @Giles:

                      Will also end up on the sale rail…

                      Well, in regards to just this immediate SBG discussion, so did the pea coats and the MANY attempts at an m-65. If sale rail status is a deal breaker, it looks like we are 0 for 3.

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                      • GilesG
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                        We sold LOADS of Sateen M65's and they normally went into the outlet when the next iteration was announced.  They sell so well we are re-releasing them in olive and black later this year.

                        If we take 30 or 40 (or more) of say, a sateen M65 and we eventually have to put a few sizing outliers in the outlet, then that is fine by me.  If we order 10 or 12 of something and have to put 50% of them in the outlet, then that's a different kettle of fish.

                        What is a deal-breaker is, if we struggle to sell something and end up tying capital in a slow mover when we could have gone longer on something more popular.

                        Does that mean we won't continue to try new stuff, of course not, but we do run a once-bitten-twice-shy policy.  So if something flops, it'll take a lot of persuasion to convince us to make it again.

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                        • ?
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                          Opinions are like assholes they say. I love my 60. Just wanted to spread the love around.

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                          • GilesG
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                            It is a truism that people think that what they like will be liked by everybody and vica versa.  If I made what everyone personally thought was the best garment that could be made, I'd have gone out of business a long time ago.  I used to do it a lot more than I do now, and made a lot of poor business decisions as a result.  I also did not make stuff that I personally disliked, that was also bad business.

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            • neph93N
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                              I think we have to accept that a lot of what we like won’t get made, ever, however perfect it might seem to us.

                              On the other hand things change. Blanket lining was unpopular a few years ago but the masses like it now. CPO’s seem a big deal for folks now, they weren’t anywhere near as interesting recently. The other big change is work shirts which have finally come into their own. So you never know.

                              I thing predicting these sea changes, reacting to the market and staying original is a job many would like to think we’d be good at but we’d most likely suck at. The crew at IH are probably best suited to making those decisions, by dint of years of experience and getting things right (and wrong earlier).

                              With regards to marketing, the changes there are also massive at IH but even with some pretty great strategies and a range of platforms, some things will fail to capture the imagination and do so.

                              “Some of those that work forces
                              Are the same that burn crosses”

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                              • Matty123M
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                                I love his 60 too. I nearly pulled the trigger on the 60 many times but balked. Foolish

                                Maybe so. Maybe not

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                                • mclaincauseyM
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                                  Blanket lining was unpopular? That's very strange to me, it's so classic, particularly for fans of "heritage brands" (though a term that IH would be more loosely coupled to than most).

                                  Think it, be it.

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                                  • neph93N
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                                    Unpopular is maybe a little strong, but there were a few things released that didn’t do great and when subsequently asked for the thinking was that they didn’t move too quickly. Things change, happily.

                                    “Some of those that work forces
                                    Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                    • GilesG
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                                      I think that much of the lack of demand for the blanket and sherpa lined product was more of a sizing issue than anything else.

                                      I am talking to H about a blanket lined Type III, properly sized, when I meet with him in a month.

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      • JDelageJ
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                                        It's hard to be definitive as to why item XYZ didn't sell. Sometimes the measurements are off, or some other features turn people off. Over several models, I suppose it can different.

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                                        • neph93N
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                                          Yeah, some of them seemed odd. Ironically the IH-533 has measurements similar to the newer modified type III’s but at the time must have seemed off.

                                          “Some of those that work forces
                                          Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                          • D
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                                            @Giles:

                                            I'm listening  😉

                                            CPO in everything.  It's that simple.

                                            But especially an artic camo (blue/white/grey) or urban camo (white/grey/black) CPO.  I know camo doesn't sell, but I can still dream.

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