Random questions to which you seek an answer
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Question 1:
Does natural indigo produce better fades than synthetic indigo?
Question 2:
Do the majority of jeans produced by premium denim brands use synthetic denim?
I ask because I believe I read somewhere a number of years ago that most premium selvedge is produced with synthetic indigo and that aside from the environmental impact synthetic indigo has no other disadvantages when compared to natural indigo.
Then I read this:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7ApgKhn49_/?igshid=he2qdu5ohgwc
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Question 1:
Does natural indigo produce better fades than synthetic indigo?
Question 2:
Do the majority of jeans produced by premium denim brands use synthetic denim?
- i don't think it generally produce better fades because of natural vs synthetic. it all boils down to the wearer and the subjective aspect of what you think is "better fades" or nicer fades.
2)i believe most do produce with synthetic indigo. because of the higher costs, if someone produces in natural indigo, you'd bet there will be all sorts of naming to actually inform you that it is made with natural indigo. most natural indigo products will state that in its name of the product.
i know PBJ does a new models in NI, so do samurai with certain anniversary models. Visvim is another brand that use a lot of natural dyes, not just indigo..
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This statement is a complete crock of shit.
"That’s because the best selvedge is hand dipped many, many times."
As for NI fading better than synthetic, I also believe that to be bollocks. I have a pair of heavily worn NI that I would challenge anyone to know was NI when compared to my equally worn synthetic.
I am certainly not a proponent for synthetic indigo and am always delighted when we do make denims out of NI, but there is some serious bullshit expounded about it, just like 1) Japan bought all the old shuttle looms from the US when the major US jeans/denim manufacturers moved away from Selvedge b) The only loopwheel machines left in the world are in one town in Japan.
As an industry, we love to create these myths because it makes it sound more mysterious and thus alluring.
As a parallel, fly-fishing for Bonefish is billed as one of the most difficult types of fishing there is. This is a myth expounded by guides who charge upwards of USD500 to help you catch them. They're really easy to catch when you know what you are doing….
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Yeah there is a lot of bullshit written in that IG post. Especially the pair pictured is never a hank dyed pair of natural indigo denim because if you penetrate the core with indigo…well there is no white to core to create fades.
PBJ has an example of a 6 years worn pair of AI jeans...they just look lighter overall but it's hard to find distinctive fades.
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Especially the pair pictured is never a hank dyed pair of natural indigo denim because if you penetrate the core with indigo…well there is no white to core to create fades.
Exactly.
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In their favor they don't exactly claim that but everybody would make the assumption the pair pictured would be NI.
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The IG post above also confuses by mixing statements on natural or synthetic Indigo (the dye) and with hand and machine dying (the method).
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Always remember that Hiut was started by an advertising executive. They're great at creating an emotional hook.
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@organisys @beautiful_FrEaK @Chris and the rest of the gang, thank you. I admit that this was a poorly concealed attempt to have a bit if a go on my part.
I'm loathe to speak ill of other brands on here, and I like a lot about Hiut, but their marketing sometimes drives me nuts. These guys sold the whole "no wash" thing heavily when they started about eight years ago and
when I saw this post last night, it took a great deal of will power not to get stuck into them on Instagram. It was worse when I read the comments from people stuffing their faces full of this happy horseshit with both hands. But I resisted the instincts of my inner troll and posted here instead.Led by a genius ad-man they may be, but the trite, spurious, confusion of dyeing techniques combined with a load of bollocks about natural indigo being far superior to synthetic, and only used by the best for the most superior fades, made my teeth itch. It is tantamount to either wilfully misleading your customer, or indicative of a level of ignorance unbecoming of the writer of the text. I find it rather annoying that it happens and more so that people lap up the indelicate codswallop.
#rantover
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I think some things are best left to our respective dialects. Codswallop is one. I don’t think I could ever pull off a «forget about it» with the same dismissive panache that a true New Yorker can.
I believe the correct spelling is actually "fuggedaboutit"
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Hi, I just purchased the following belt in natural and can't wait to see it age.
https://www.ironheart.co.uk/accessories/ihb-06.html
I really like the brass hardware a lot, however I have a lot of accessories that would go better with silver/nickel. I was wondering if Iron Heart made such a thing separately to swap out if I chose to?
Thanks
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Seems like the kind of aftermarket accessory that Good Art Hollywood should make…
