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    Graeme
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    Joined: 30 Mar 2012

    As long as it doesn't turn up looking like this poor Speedy!

    And make sure that the GMTs aren't sitting on the desk next time I visit. 😃

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      mclaincausey
      見習いボス
      Joined: 12 Apr 2013

      @Graeme:

      Since bezel screws always mess with people's OCD, here's another article on them. 😃

      https://timeandtidewatches.com/the-problem-with-bezel-screws/

      We can detect gravitational wave perturbations that are less than the width of a proton. I don't understand why aligning screws is such an engineering challenge. That screed would have been much more interesting and productive had it explained why that challenge is so insurmountable.

      Think it, be it.

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        JDelage
        啓蒙家
        Joined: 13 Jan 2012

        I agree with @mclaincausey . Given the tolerances required to make tourbillons, bridges, etc, I don't see why the screws can't be timed.

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          mclaincausey
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          Joined: 12 Apr 2013

          To be clear, I'm strictly speaking of case-constructional screws, particularly if they are part of the watch's aesthetic, and to a lesser degree screw-down crowns. Movement screws being aligned? Not so much, I understand why that would be very difficult and not worth the effort.

          Think it, be it.

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            JDelage
            啓蒙家
            Joined: 13 Jan 2012

            Yes, me too. Thanks for the precision. I was mentioning the movement elements only to point out that they have the knowledge & tooling to do super precise work.

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              mclaincausey
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              Joined: 12 Apr 2013

              Exactly–and to people who deride or dismiss this as a pointless conceit (as if a flying tourbillon is comparatively tame) or OCD (if they're highly visible in the case, why wouldn't you want them aligned?), we're talking about watches with highly, intricately decorated movements, oftentimes not even made visible through the case and dial, so not paying similar attention to exposed elements doesn't make sense to me. To others who say it's too labor-intensive or time-consuming to do it, that's a slap in the face to someone paying 5, 6, or even 7 figures for a timepiece.

              Richard Mille's approach of a proprietary star-shaped screw is an interesting fix, reducing the visual jarring of independently-adjusted screws. Countersunk bolts is another way (Royal Oak) way to solve it that I find a bit goofy (why make it look like a screw when it's countersunk into a bezel and thus couldn't rotate in the first place?).

              I'm a bit surprised given the attention to detail, precision, and general engineering achievement in the industry that no one has solved for this–at the least as a differentiator against the status quo, since novelty sells at all levels of horology.

              Think it, be it.

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                Giles
                IHUK Crew
                Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  neph93
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                  Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                  That is very, very pretty. Does the bezel rotate?

                  “Some of those that work forces
                  Are the same that burn crosses”

                  • Virginia Woolf
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                    Giles
                    IHUK Crew
                    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                    Yes, with the smoothest, most satisfying action of any watch I have ever played with….(None of which have been in this league though).

                    Oh, and if I told you what it cost me, none of you would ever talk to me again....

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      neph93
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                      Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                      @Giles:

                      Oh, and if I told you what it cost me, none of you would ever talk to me again….

                      I’m sure I’d forgive you… That bezel looks amazing. The contrast of the notched metal (steel?) ring and glazed (enamelled?) top is wonderful. It’s beauty and function in perfect harmony.

                      “Some of those that work forces
                      Are the same that burn crosses”

                      • Virginia Woolf
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                        Giles
                        IHUK Crew
                        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                        Stainless steel.  Crystal bezel

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          Graeme
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                          Joined: 30 Mar 2012

                          Nice watch @Giles. I recall that you've been after one for years.

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                            mclaincausey
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                            Joined: 12 Apr 2013

                            Congratulations! That's a perfect watch for everyday IMO.

                            @neph93 the original had an acrylic bezel. When they rebooted it, they moved to a sapphire, lumed bezel that, as @Giles referenced, has the loudest, most solid and satisfying ratchet action in the biz. This to me is a perfect way to honor the design of the original, but to modernize it.

                            Well-played, Giles

                            Think it, be it.

                            last edited by 23 May 2019, 16:02 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                              kkibbey23
                              Haraki san Prodigy
                              Joined: 16 Oct 2013

                              @Giles amazing pickup. I tried a regular FF on not long ago and was blown away by it.  Its on my list for sure.

                              I believe that edition was limited to 500? So great you got the grail you gave been after for a very long time.

                              Congrats!

                              Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

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                                Giles
                                IHUK Crew
                                Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                Yep, limited to 500….

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                  bryaneidins70
                                  Iron Heart Deity
                                  Joined: 24 Feb 2017

                                  Lovely watch @Giles  😎

                                  'Fail we may…Sail we must'

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                                    Chris
                                    Raw and Unwashed
                                    Joined: 28 Jun 2010

                                    Really fantastic.  I'm happy you finally managed to get one, since you've lusted after it for years.

                                    I'm looking forward to checking it out in person eventually…  😉

                                    last edited by 24 May 2019, 18:20 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      Graeme
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                                      Joined: 30 Mar 2012

                                      Tag Heuer announced their fiftieth anniversary plans for the Monaco in Monaco last night. They'll be releasing a model for each decade of its life every three or four weeks. There'll be 169 of each released, making a total of 845 pieces.

                                      The Seventies one was released yesterday, and it's already sold out. The differences to the standard model are that it's got a funky green dial and a solid caseback. The price is $6550, against $5900 for the regular model.

                                      I think that Tag Heuer have missed an opportunity by not upgrading the movement to their Calibre 02, especially if they used their new carbon mainspring…

                                      More at Calibre 11, Hodinkee, and Monochrome.

                                      @Filthy the 1999 to 2009 model is going to have a black dial. If you want a Monaco to match your wardrobe, it might be worth putting in a preorder for one of those.

                                      last edited by 25 May 2019, 08:36 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                        Graeme
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                                        Joined: 30 Mar 2012

                                        The local Omega boutique has just got the Seamaster 1948 Centre Seconds in, despite having told me a while back that it sold out last year. It's a lovely little watch and I'm very tempted.

                                        There's also a platinum version, which looks almost identical, but is gorgeous. However, it's another $50K (Australian), and the differences are subtle. (It's the one on the brown, alligator strap.) For the money, I'd get a Patek Aquanaut Chronograph (if they'd sell me one), or the H. Moser & Cie Vantablack.

                                        I also saw the titanium, tantalum, and Sedna gold Seamaster Diver, which I liked a lot more than I thought that I would.

                                        It comes in a really cool box too.

                                        last edited by 25 May 2019, 10:38 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          DougNg
                                          Joined: 24 Sept 2009

                                          @Giles

                                          Congrats. There's nothing like getting your grail watch.

                                          In fact, I'm going to strap on my Seamaster. Hasn't gotten much love lately.

                                          I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

                                          last edited by 25 May 2019, 13:33 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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