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    • GraemeG
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      Omega also used a CT scanner to replicate the case of the limited edition Railmaster. It could be that it's a quick and dirty way of acquiring a 3D model, or that with components being hand made back in the sixties, there was some deviation from their specifications.

      Marketing has no doubt picked up on this and oversold it.

      I suspect that there's been a bit of subtle modernisation of the movement. The Wrist Chronograph has a few subtle upgrades. That might have been what took the time.

      https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/first-omega-wrist-chronograph-limited-edition-1918-introducing

      FP Journe uses gold movements too. It's probably a way of charging a lot more. 🙂

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      • JDelageJ
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        I'm sure it's not only the quickest but also the best way (and maybe the easiest / cheapest) to accurately translate a series of complex 3D shape into digital files. No doubt those will be combed over & edited with the help of any paper docs they may still have.

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        • mclaincauseyM
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          It's an easy way to get a 3D model, but you know what's easier and more accurate and doesn't include worn gears and the like?

          Entering the measurements from the blueprints into your CAD system or tooling equipment.

          It is unquestionably just a bunch of bullshit hype.

          Think it, be it.

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          • DougNgD
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            I know a little bit about manufacturing being a knife and gun enthusiast, and what a scan won't tell you is the +/- of tolerances. It just tells you what things are right now. Every individual part has over and under tolerances that are not the same across all parts. Having a series of parts that are +/- in series results in tolerance stacking, ultimately affecting the reliability.

            I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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            • GraemeG
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              It's also possible that the design documents for the Calibre 321 weren't complete. There's an article at Ars Technica about the recreation of the F-1 engine used by the Saturn V, which was designed in the sixties, and goes into the problems facing resurrecting old technology.

              https://arstechnica.com/science/2013/04/how-nasa-brought-the-monstrous-f-1-moon-rocket-back-to-life/

              Incidentally, there was serious consideration of reusing this for NASA's heavy lift system.

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              • mclaincauseyM
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                Again though, the problem with all of that is that the movement never went out of production within entities that ultimately became the parent company of Omega.

                A certified Omega watchmaker on the Omega forums called it bollocks too.

                Think it, be it.

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                • JDelageJ
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                  What is the "bollocks" part of the claim here? In other words, are people claiming that Omega used CT scanning solely for the sake of generating a marketing claim?

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                  • mclaincauseyM
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                    That is the claim, or at least that they are outsizing the CT and other efforts described to recreate a movement that never went out of production.

                    Think it, be it.

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                    • Max PowerM
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                      I was wondering - is there something like a defintive maker of Nato straps worth checking out?

                      @elclintor:

                      > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                      • GraemeG
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                        Anyone else following SIHH?

                        Vacheron Constantin have unveiled a very trick perpetual calendar with a standby mode that stretches the power reserve out to 65 days. It slows the movement down from 5 Hz to 1.25 Hz. Oh, and if you want one it's €210K.

                        Audemars Piguet launched the CODE 11.59 range, which has way too much marketing speak in its branding. None of the watch nerds seem to like them, but sales copy aside, I think that they're attractive. And the aventine dial on their perpetual calendar looks fantastic.

                        Fortunately they also brought along a few new Royal Oak models. The basic model has been refreshed, and looks pretty sharp.

                        Then there's the A. Lange & Söhne Richard Lange Jumping Seconds… 😘

                        Ulysse Nardin are doing a sawn-off Freak at a lower price point.

                        And Hermès have produced a fantastic moon-phase. The subdials rotate, covering the fixed moons.

                        Lastly, IWC have added to their pilot watches. There are new four ceramic models in their Top Gun range, including a 39 mm piece that's similar to a Mark XVIII, but with an in-house movement. The Spitfire collection is all retro steel and bronze.

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                        • louisboscoL
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                          not really. the only thing that popped up was the group of royal oak.. i've gotta say, that lange up there, gotta love it when they do the criss cross hands..

                          "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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                          • ChrisC
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                            Those Hermes moon phase and the UN Freak are the standouts, in my opinion.  And I agree that the aventine dial looks impressive, though the overall watch is a bit too much.

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                            • JDelageJ
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                              Thank you for this. Those Hermes look super nice!

                              I like that AP Supersonnerie - from afar. The enamel dial is lovely.

                              RA always look sublime and I think the new one improves on the previous iteration, which is saying a lot.

                              The IWC Spitfire combines my favorite case material, bronze, with my favorite dial color, green, so it's very attractive… The chrono seem pretty well priced compared to the basic model.

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                              • GraemeG
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                                A few more bits and pieces from SIHH.

                                Montblanc have been doing some fantastic chronographs based around the Minerva monopusher movements, and this year's is the best so far.

                                There was talk that the TAG Heuer 02T was getting a carbon nanotube hairspring last year. It's now arrived, and promises better shock resistance, anti-magnetic properties, and thermal stability than steel or silicon. But they would say that.

                                Bulgari own the Gérald Genta brand after they bought it off The Hour Glass, a Singapore based retailer. They've done a fiftieth anniversary piece, which I rather like.

                                H Moser & Cie have produced a one-off Apple Watch knockoff, which is a minute repeater and tourbillon. They also left the hands off.

                                Meanwhile Richard Mille is trolling the super-rich by producing a collection based on sweets!

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                                • mclaincauseyM
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                                  The Moser is brilliant. If I were Stevie Wonder, that would be my watch. Setting it is a bitch though and certainly requires eyesight.

                                  I've held a view of Mont Blanc being a pretender for a while, but they're doing a good job. Forced to admit that their perpetual calendar is nice too.

                                  Mille is… Well, Mille.

                                  Think it, be it.

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                                  • DougNgD
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                                    Not the first watch to be purpose built for blind people

                                    https://www.eone-time.com/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=bradley watch&utm_campaign=g-search-US-brand-exact&utm_content=194535116550&gclid=Cj0KCQiA7IDiBRCLARIsABIPohj18AM3nWGPyttiHUu3kMQQXMmCNn7DYy4UgdFatNUU2QvZ3yTI9tQaArgNEALw_wcB

                                    I bought one years ago when it was on Kickstarter. Interesting watch.

                                    I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                                    • mclaincauseyM
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                                      @DougNg:

                                      Not the first watch to be purpose built for blind people

                                      https://www.eone-time.com/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=bradley watch&utm_campaign=g-search-US-brand-exact&utm_content=194535116550&gclid=Cj0KCQiA7IDiBRCLARIsABIPohj18AM3nWGPyttiHUu3kMQQXMmCNn7DYy4UgdFatNUU2QvZ3yTI9tQaArgNEALw_wcB

                                      I bought one years ago when it was on Kickstarter. Interesting watch.

                                      Ah, I've seen that pop up in advertisements but didn't think of the use for blind folks–a tactile solution is nice too, since you don't necessarily irritate those around you when checking the time. Very clever.

                                      Think it, be it.

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                                      • GraemeG
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                                        Prices for hot Rolexes are starting to fall.

                                        https://usa.watchpro.com/prices-hottest-rolex-models-falling-fast-says-secondary-market-specialist/

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                                        • GilesG
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                                          😶 😶 😶 😶 😶

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                          • mclaincauseyM
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                                            Nice grail! Especially for one who travels internationally as much as you do, that's a great choice.

                                            Oh, and I forgot to complain / express my confusion about how that Hermes has the hemispheres reversed for the moon views. It seems there must be some explanation for that, it's otherwise so close to perfection–why wouldn't north and south be oriented top and bottom?

                                            Think it, be it.

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