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    • ChrisC
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      I like the orange accents on the Ultraman, though I'm not sure it's worth the premium.  The DeVille with the copper dial is extremely nice looking.  Maybe I'd feel differently if I saw it in real life, but the window in the side of the case seems pointless and gimmicky.

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      • GraemeG
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        @sabergirl also look at the Tissot Swissmatic, which is a derivative of the Sistem51.

        https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/tissot-swissmatic-everytime-value-proposition

        I like the sapphire case sides on the Hour Vision, but the dial is a bit fussy. Plus, as @Anesthetist pointed out, there's an awful lot of unnecessary and badly positions text.

        The Ultraman looks good, but I'm not sure about the glowing UV logo. I agree that Omega do a huge number of gimmicky limited editions.

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        • hajdukH
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          here we go! Christmas gift from my wife! Cordovan walnut strap! Met at the last Fish n’ Chips lot of nice people. One of them, Johnny aka @Scasi  from @obbigood. And weeks later…am so happy with the result!!

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          • neph93N
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            Very nice indeed. Looks especially tasty on that watch @hajduk

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            • hajdukH
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              Thanks Reuben[emoji3577] the plan with Johnny was to get some cordovan can create one beautiful patina over the years.

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              • ScasiS
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                @hajduk:

                Thanks Reuben[emoji3577] the plan with Johnny was to get some cordovan can create one beautiful patina over the years.

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                It looks great on it!

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                • GraemeG
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                  I went into the IWC boutique in Melbourne to see if there was any sign of the Big Pilot Big Date with a white dial. It's not arrived yet, but the salesman showed me the Aquatimer Perpetual Calendar. It's a big watch, and I think you need to be built like the Rock to carry it off.

                  Just down the road I got chatting to another salesperson about the H. Moser and Cie watches. They had one of their very limited models with a Vanta black dial. The moonphase is apparently accurate to one day in a thousand odd years. :o

                  The movement on this is lovely. You can't see in the photo, but the back of the watch has a curved sapphire crystal to hug the back of the wrist better.

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                  • ChrisC
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                    @Graeme:

                    They had one of their very limited models with a Vanta black dial.

                    Geez, seems like they'd do a better job with AR coating the crystal, so you get a better impression of the Vantablack.

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                    • GraemeG
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                      I've got a feeling that the Moser has an anti-reflection coating on the crystal. It's just that Vantablack is really difficult to photograph.

                      I do like the watch a lot, but it's $35K (US), so it's not going to happen!

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                      • GraemeG
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                        Omega have announced that they're remaking the Calibre 321, which was used in the original Speedmasters that went to the Moon.

                        Given we're coming up on the fiftieth anniversary of Neil Armstrong's jaunt, I suspect that we'll be seeing this in the inevitable limited commemorative edition Speedmaster, which will sell like crack filled hotcakes.

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                        • ChrisC
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                          And will be obscenely priced…

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                          • mclaincauseyM
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                            Fratello indicates the movement will not be in the 50th anniversary models. There is to be a gold one allegedly (which sounds disgusting).

                            The backstory about how they had to do a CT scan and have a multidisciplinary team reverse engineer the movement makes no sense to me, since the Swatch group never stopped making it and presumably has all the schematics.

                            Good news for Speedy nerds but agree with Chris the pricing will be outrageous based on the single workshop and painstaking 2 year reverse eingineering project described.

                            Think it, be it.

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                            • DougNgD
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                              I was just saying that to Jody last night re: the scan they had to do to reverse engineer it…

                              Is it that the specs for the movement were destroyed in a fire?!?

                              Or is watchmaking a haphazard process where people are making shit up as they go along, and every 321 movement is really the specific to Joe Dirt and Sunshine Lou?

                              Or is Omega full of shit?

                              You'd think making a specific movement has standards and specifications...

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                              • mclaincauseyM
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                                I'm going "full of shit."

                                The entire backstory to me seems designed to justify a high price.

                                Think it, be it.

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                                • GilesG
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                                  Full of shit gets my vote….

                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                  • ChrisC
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                                    @DougNg:

                                    Or is Omega full of shit?

                                    Yes.

                                    The idea that they couldn't follow the original specs and instead had to go to extreme lengths to recreate the movement is absurd.  It's not an illuminated manuscript from the dark ages.  There are probably still a couple of employees at Omega that assembled the originals. It wasn't that long ago.

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                                    • GilesG
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                                      IMO, it's rather an own goal.  "Hey, we are so shite at looking after our heritage, we've lost all sorts of essential data.  You send your few decades old watch in for refurb/service, we're going to have to back engineer the fecker, or bodge it…..

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      • DougNgD
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                                        That's as idiotic as "I'm going to find out more about my family history so I'm going to talk to a monkey"

                                        Which has varying levels of effectiveness depending on your family I suppose…

                                        I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                                        • mclaincauseyM
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                                          They are also doing sedna gold PVD in lieu of the original copper in order to preserve the look of copper in the movement. With gold. That is not a typo

                                          But gold doesn't tarnish so that may be a legitimate aim. It seems odd to take such pains to replicate the original and then switch up materials though.

                                          Think it, be it.

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                                          • GraemeG
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                                            Omega also used a CT scanner to replicate the case of the limited edition Railmaster. It could be that it's a quick and dirty way of acquiring a 3D model, or that with components being hand made back in the sixties, there was some deviation from their specifications.

                                            Marketing has no doubt picked up on this and oversold it.

                                            I suspect that there's been a bit of subtle modernisation of the movement. The Wrist Chronograph has a few subtle upgrades. That might have been what took the time.

                                            https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/first-omega-wrist-chronograph-limited-edition-1918-introducing

                                            FP Journe uses gold movements too. It's probably a way of charging a lot more. 🙂

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