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    Watches - another OCD problem

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    • S
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      I like that, @Anesthetist.  Just read a little bit about Sistem 51, seems like a novelty worth of Swatch.  What makes you say it's disposable?

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      • seawolfS
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        My Lum-Tec M22 on a ZeeBee Horween Nut Brown Dublin strap.

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        • AnesthetistA
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          @sabergirl:

          I like that, @Anesthetist.  Just read a little bit about Sistem 51, seems like a novelty worth of Swatch.  What makes you say it's disposable?

          No doubt it’s a unique and noteworthy accomplishment for the company. However, the movement is “welded” together and then hermetically sealed into the plastic case. This creates a robust movement with limited parts but it is sadly unserviceable.

          However, I’ve heard that the newest metal cased watches CAN be serviced. This gives me hope that Swatch figures out a way to also fix the plastic cased watches. Then we have the age old quandary wether a $150 watch is worth a $200+ service. I’ve seen a lot of old, broken Seiko 5’s at flea markets so I’m guessing most people would say not.

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            Aha!  Makes sense.  Thanks for your response.  They're making metal ones, eh?  Interesting.

            I remember loving my quartz swatch that my Dad got for me when I was 8.  Wonder what happened to it?  The band looked was an aquarium with fish swimming in it…

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            • AnesthetistA
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              @sabergirl:

              Aha!  Makes sense.  Thanks for your response.  They're making metal ones, eh?  Interesting.

              I remember loving my quartz swatch that my Dad got for me when I was 8.  Wonder what happened to it?  The band looked was an aquarium with fish swimming in it…

              Do a search, they do re-editions all the time so you never know if it will turn up again. They are fun little watches and a good way to make sure that you dont take yourself too seriously!

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              • GraemeG
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                I've been eyeing up the Omega DeVille Hour Vision recently. They're more of a dress watch, but with a steel case and 100 metres water resistance, they're pretty tough.

                They're available with an annual calendar. It adds a couple of millimetres to the case, and Omegas tend to be a bit chunky at the best of time.

                This model has a part sapphire case, which is unusual.

                As well as the white dial (no photo), it comes as a blue dial in a solid case.

                And a bronze / brown dial.

                My girlfriend is a big fan of the blue dial. Looks like I'll need to buy another watch for her to wear! :o

                Oh, as a bonus, here's an Omega Speedy Tuesday Ultraman that I spotted in the boutique in Brisbane. It belongs to one of the salesmen, and he bought it before he got the job.

                Incidentally, if you're looking for a rare watch that's unavailable at retail, you'll probably find it in a grey market dealer. Here's another Ultraman and a Pepsi GMT.

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                • mclaincauseyM
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                  Love it @seawolf !!!

                  Not that I could/would afford it, but I think Rolex made a mistake using the Jubilee instead of an OP bracelet on the GMT (the former IMO being too delicate and precious to match the case and dial), and while I like the color scheme of Ultraman, I find themed watches to generally be a major turn-off. Omega drive me crazy on that count, it seems so juvenile and transient, for example, to have a "007" logo marring a timepiece that is built to last. The DeVilles you showed are more "timeless.

                  Think it, be it.

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                    I like the orange accents on the Ultraman, though I'm not sure it's worth the premium.  The DeVille with the copper dial is extremely nice looking.  Maybe I'd feel differently if I saw it in real life, but the window in the side of the case seems pointless and gimmicky.

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                    • GraemeG
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                      @sabergirl also look at the Tissot Swissmatic, which is a derivative of the Sistem51.

                      https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/tissot-swissmatic-everytime-value-proposition

                      I like the sapphire case sides on the Hour Vision, but the dial is a bit fussy. Plus, as @Anesthetist pointed out, there's an awful lot of unnecessary and badly positions text.

                      The Ultraman looks good, but I'm not sure about the glowing UV logo. I agree that Omega do a huge number of gimmicky limited editions.

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                      • hajdukH
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                        here we go! Christmas gift from my wife! Cordovan walnut strap! Met at the last Fish n’ Chips lot of nice people. One of them, Johnny aka @Scasi  from @obbigood. And weeks later…am so happy with the result!!

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                        • neph93N
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                          Very nice indeed. Looks especially tasty on that watch @hajduk

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                            Thanks Reuben[emoji3577] the plan with Johnny was to get some cordovan can create one beautiful patina over the years.

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                              @hajduk:

                              Thanks Reuben[emoji3577] the plan with Johnny was to get some cordovan can create one beautiful patina over the years.

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                              It looks great on it!

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                                I went into the IWC boutique in Melbourne to see if there was any sign of the Big Pilot Big Date with a white dial. It's not arrived yet, but the salesman showed me the Aquatimer Perpetual Calendar. It's a big watch, and I think you need to be built like the Rock to carry it off.

                                Just down the road I got chatting to another salesperson about the H. Moser and Cie watches. They had one of their very limited models with a Vanta black dial. The moonphase is apparently accurate to one day in a thousand odd years. :o

                                The movement on this is lovely. You can't see in the photo, but the back of the watch has a curved sapphire crystal to hug the back of the wrist better.

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                                • ChrisC
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                                  @Graeme:

                                  They had one of their very limited models with a Vanta black dial.

                                  Geez, seems like they'd do a better job with AR coating the crystal, so you get a better impression of the Vantablack.

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                                  • GraemeG
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                                    I've got a feeling that the Moser has an anti-reflection coating on the crystal. It's just that Vantablack is really difficult to photograph.

                                    I do like the watch a lot, but it's $35K (US), so it's not going to happen!

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                                      Omega have announced that they're remaking the Calibre 321, which was used in the original Speedmasters that went to the Moon.

                                      Given we're coming up on the fiftieth anniversary of Neil Armstrong's jaunt, I suspect that we'll be seeing this in the inevitable limited commemorative edition Speedmaster, which will sell like crack filled hotcakes.

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                                      • ChrisC
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                                        And will be obscenely priced…

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                                          Fratello indicates the movement will not be in the 50th anniversary models. There is to be a gold one allegedly (which sounds disgusting).

                                          The backstory about how they had to do a CT scan and have a multidisciplinary team reverse engineer the movement makes no sense to me, since the Swatch group never stopped making it and presumably has all the schematics.

                                          Good news for Speedy nerds but agree with Chris the pricing will be outrageous based on the single workshop and painstaking 2 year reverse eingineering project described.

                                          Think it, be it.

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                                          • DougNgD
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                                            I was just saying that to Jody last night re: the scan they had to do to reverse engineer it…

                                            Is it that the specs for the movement were destroyed in a fire?!?

                                            Or is watchmaking a haphazard process where people are making shit up as they go along, and every 321 movement is really the specific to Joe Dirt and Sunshine Lou?

                                            Or is Omega full of shit?

                                            You'd think making a specific movement has standards and specifications...

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