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Loneliness is more dangerous than smoking or cardiovascular disease, according to former US Surgeon General:
Pretty interesting. I'm doomed.
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@Filthy:
Loneliness is more dangerous than smoking or cardiovascular disease, according to former US Surgeon General:
Pretty interesting. I'm doomed.
Growing research indicates that nonmedical factors such as "social isolation" constitute anywhere from 60-80% of healthcare outcomes. Your ZIP code is more impactful to your health than your genetic code. Healthcare is in the midst of adapting to this reality, and there will need to be more social interventions to address loneliness, hunger, housing issues, addiction, interpersonal violence, and other risk factors that have traditionally fallen outside of healthcare.
This is a global trend, but in the US, where healthcare spending is approaching 20% of our GDP and the most expensive patients typically have one or more social risk factors, it is absolutely necessary for a sustainable for-profit system.
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That's kind of a vicious cycle because when I read about it, it just makes me want to withdrawal even more.
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Yeah @Filthy , so many destructive patterns are that way, and unfortunately I can say that from firsthand experience. I hope you find some local folks you like to be around. I am an introvert with a low tolerance for human foibles, so it takes energy for me to hang–but luckily I enjoy the folks I hang with when I occasion to hang with em, and that makes a huge difference. So does my dog! And so does art (ironically, often depressing music).
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Thanks for the meaningful responses. I have a hard time articulating what I am thinking sometimes so this is why I am so brief. Yes, I need to try and figure something out. The doctor in that video suggests forcing yourself to go out and at least go to places you enjoy. Maybe I will give that a shot? Thanks a lot for taking the time to talk to me, because it means a lot. I really appreciate all of the people I get to talk to here. Cheers @mclaincausey
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I have always been a solitary sort, @Filthy, so I definitely identify. Most of the things I like to do, like reading, riding my bike, hiking, crafting, are by nature lonely activities. I find that I feel a lot less lonely going about my hermetic existence in public–when I go to the café or the bar to read, for example. I also try to walk at the public park where I'm around other humans. It helps that I have a pretty social job. Before I had a partner I was often very lonely, and felt a little isolated at times--but it was definitely a big help to be out among people, so I tried not to just nest in my house every day and night, and I think it made a difference.
I've also often found that it relieves a bit of loneliness to talk to people online! So here we are.
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@sabergirl hmm that would be cool to find a bar I could read a book at. Most of the places I go to are pretty low brow. I do spend a lot of time looking at pictures of clothing and cats when I go to the bar though. I am afraid people think I am looking at Facebook just like everyone else. I tried checking out meetup but I didn't find any groups that were similar to my interests. Plus I have to leave home for work all the time, so it is hard to maintain even the most casual of friendships.
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My wife tells me that the research seems to to indicate that online interaction doesn't take the place of human interaction. And that interaction with your spouse isn't enough- apparently, we need honest to god, real world friends, too.
So I guess I'm doomed to an early death, too, filthy…
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So I guess I'm doomed to an early death, too, filthy…
Me three
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….. research seems to to indicate that online interaction doesn't take the place of human interaction. And that interaction with your spouse isn't enough- apparently, we need honest to god, real world friends, too.
So I guess I'm doomed to an early death, too, filthy...
Sounds like I should be dying any day now… Outside of conversation with my ex-wife and children, I routinely go an entire week without saying more than a simple "Hello" to anyone except my wife, and that's including work as well......
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Hello HA (Hermites Anonymous), I'm a new member and I have no meaningful human interaction with anyone except my wife and if you ask her even that is debatable. ::) I'm a student so lots of forced interaction with all sorts of folks but that's something I'd rather not. I don't know if I'm lonely but people being good friends with people seems like a bit of an alien concept.
Having said that, I'd have no hard objections to friending people I genuinely like; I guess it's just a case of such people being hard to come by.
Either that or it's me who is a c*nt. ::)
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The video doesn't show but I can attest that since I started to work alone:
- my blood pressure is finally down to a normal level
- I've stopped grinding my teeth when I sleep
- my overall mood has improved
- my kitchen appliances have remained dent free
So whatever Dr. Murthy had to say, I'm pretty much going to ignore it.
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I routinely go an entire week without saying more than a simple "Hello" to anyone except my wife, and that's including work as well…...
I can legitimately go days without even seeing a co-worker, much less speaking to one.
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I routinely go an entire week without saying more than a simple "Hello" to anyone except my wife, and that's including work as well…...
I can legitimately go days without even seeing a co-worker, much less speaking to one.
Whoa… that might be a bit much for me.
I prefer my "alone" in the general vicinity of other humans, I just don't want to have to interact with those other humans.
Example:
We've stopped going to our favorite Thai restaurant because we became regulars, so the owner and his wife always want to chat with us for like 5mins before taking our order… As delicious as the food is, it's still not worth those 5 awkward minutes to me. -
This conversation actually proves the possible truth in @mclaincausey post. A group of self proclaimed reclusiive people talking to each other about their not needing or wanting to talk to people. It’s ok guys. You all want and need love and I love you all 🥰
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