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    • tvenutoT
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      Yesterday's haul: "poor man's pappy" and "the pappy of rums"

      The former refers to the fact that WL Weller is made from the same mashbill, at the same distillery (Buffalo Trace), and aged in the same warehouses as Pappy Van Winkle.  In fact, nothing more than serendipity and the judgement of the master distiller kept the juice in this bottle from eventually becoming the coveted (and rather over-hyped) Pappy Van Winkle.  That said, it stands on its own merit, as high-proof wheated bourbons aren't all that common.  This one is a steal if you can actually find it at the $30 MSRP.  If you can't, and want a wheated bourbon, seek out Rebel Yell "Small Batch Reserve" (probably older and definitely higher proof than the plain jane) or Larceny, which both hail from Heaven Hill and can be had for around $30 all day.

      The latter refers to the recent hype surrounding the Foursquare Rum Distillery, their habit of releasing limited vintages, and the secondary market that's popped up as a result.  Unlike actual Pappy, which is maybe 5% better than others in its sphere yet costs 300% more, this rum is punching well above its price point (thus the secondary market).  Unlike bourbon, which has strict rules surrounding additives, rum distillers can add sugar, color, and flavors to their finished product.  While this does mean you can get a very drinkable and consistent rum for cheap, it lacks transparency, and doesn't sit right with those of us who appreciate craftsmanship and doing things the old way.  The master distiller of Foursquare is a proponent of doing things the "honest way" and the results speak for themselves.  You won't catch this one in a daiquiri any time soon.

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        Recently got a bottle of Foursquare Premise Rum,easily the best Rum I've ever had

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          Marcia’s Dad brought us a mezcal that I’ve never tried before: Probably not distributed in the US—although the market has been pretty flooded, recently. This one is very vegetal, and so smooth, but not too sweet. Also, pleasantly lower in alcohol content. Marcia saved the gusano for herself!

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            These are my current favorite Mezcals,and I’m always looking for recommendations,as I’m still in the learning/experimenting stage. Never tried a Reposado or Anejo,as they can get very expensive.

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              I’ve tried the mezcal Vago—a little sweeter than I normally look for, but I think it has a bourbon-like character from the corn, which I appreciate.

              These are the bottles we have right now:The Del Maguey Vida we only use for margaritas or palomas—the rest are sippers. Los Amantes reposado is delicious. If you’re looking to try something aged, I recommend it. Alipus makes some great ones. I’m most partial to their San Baltazar. Haven’t seen it at the liquor store here, yet.

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                I have the Vida as well,don’t especially like it,never thought to try it in a Paloma. Will definitely look for the Reposado as well as the others. Had one of the Illegal Mezcals also. It was OK. THANKS!

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                • tvenutoT
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                  Liquor and jigsaw puzzles, love it.

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                  • Matty123M
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                    Yeah, that’s a plastic nip of Jack Daniels

                    Maybe so. Maybe not

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                    • Matty123M
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                      Finished it

                      Maybe so. Maybe not

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                      • mclaincauseyM
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                        @sabergirl:

                        I’ve tried the mezcal Vago—a little sweeter than I normally look for, but I think it has a bourbon-like character from the corn, which I appreciate.

                        These are the bottles we have right now:]The Del Maguey Vida we only use for margaritas or palomas—the rest are sippers. Los Amantes reposado is delicious. If you’re looking to try something aged, I recommend it. Alipus makes some great ones. I’m most partial to their San Baltazar. Haven’t seen it at the liquor store here, yet.

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                        I should have mentioned the Paloma use for Vida when I panned it. Nice collection. I love Alipus, like every one I've had so far has been good to great.

                        Today an experiment. Not bad. Probably won't revisit though.

                        Had I Maraschino and lemon (and shame on me for not), I'd have riffed a modified Final Ward with the Strega.

                        Think it, be it.

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                          My liquor store www.astorwines.com has 6 different bottles of Alipus Mezcal,someof which are pretty expensive Which ones would you guys recommend? If you click on the Spirits dropdown menu and click on producers Alipus comes up. Thanks in advance @sabergirl @mclaincausey

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                          • mclaincauseyM
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                            Wow I need to check them out.

                            Favorite but you'll pay: http://www.astorwines.com/SearchResultsSingle.aspx?p=2&search=35540&searchtype=Contains

                            But all have been solid. I think I recall having especially enjoyed this one http://www.astorwines.com/SearchResultsSingle.aspx?p=2&search=36949&searchtype=Contains

                            @Jett129:

                            My liquor store www.astorwines.com has 6 different bottles of Alipus Mezcal,someof which are pretty expensive Which ones would you guys recommend? If you click on the Spirits dropdown menu and click on producers Alipus comes up. Thanks in advance @sabergirl @mclaincausey

                            Think it, be it.

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                              They recently had an across the board Tequila/Mezcal sale and I stocked up on tequila,had I known I would have grabbed some of these.-Next time. Thanks for taking the time to look for me.

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                              • mclaincauseyM
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                                NP: good ideal to stockpile Mexican spirits while you can.

                                Think it, be it.

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                                • mclaincauseyM
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                                  This was a successful experiment.

                                  Think it, be it.

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                                  • scooterS
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                                    Replaced this dying soldier….

                                    This has become my "daily" sipper. Don't get me wrong, I still love sipping a good Bourbon, or rye. But, the Irish definitely know how to put me at ease, at the end of a long day. It was a four finger night, tonight.

                                    Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

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                                    • mclaincauseyM
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                                      For once, I don't have rye but am heavy on bourbon. Thus, the appropriately-named Bourbon Scofflaw.

                                      Think it, be it.

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                                      • tvenutoT
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                                        @mclaincausey nice. And by heavy on bourbon I assume you mean a dozen or so bottles on hand?

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                                        • mclaincauseyM
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                                          No, for me that just means 7. I keep a lean bar because I drink em down faster than I probably should.

                                          Made a really nice one with some almost overripe peaches , I call it The Panic:

                                          Muddle like a fifth of a large peach without skin on broken ice with real grenadine

                                          Stir in 2oz whiskey, 1 oz dolin Blanc, 1/2oz fresh lemon, ango (I used a bittercube version) dash, shake like it owes you money, strain over a highball with ice, float some Pellegrino lemon soda. Really really good.

                                          Think it, be it.

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                                          • tvenutoT
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                                            Ha I’m in the same boat. I buy em as fast as I can and I drink em almost as fast  I was just musing about how many bottles I’d have to have before I considered myself “heavy on bourbon.”

                                            Much experimenting tonight:

                                            First one:
                                            "The Solution"
                                            1.5 oz Tequila
                                            1.5 oz Mezcal (or other smoked liquor)
                                            1 oz lime
                                            .75 oz syrup
                                            1 egg

                                            This one was me figuring out what to do with a Baltimore distilled apple brandy, where the apples are smoked before distillation.

                                            Second:
                                            "Goldenrod"
                                            3 oz white whiskey (VA distilled rye in this case)
                                            2 oz triple sec
                                            2 oz lime
                                            0.5 oz simple

                                            A white whiskey Margarita.  "Margarita" is Spanish for "Daisy" and goldenrod is the state flower of KY so it seemed appropriate.  This makes a BIG drink, so gird your loins.

                                            Third:
                                            White American
                                            1 oz white whiskey
                                            1 oz Kahlua
                                            2 oz coconut milk

                                            A riff on the white russian.  I can't drink dairy so this is what I came up with.  Freaking delicious, and I'm pretty smashed at this point.

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