THIS OR THAT?

[Boyo]

666 XHS 25oz
PIHXS 25oz
555-01  21oz

Anyone care to weigh in?

[neph93]

@Boyo I have the 666-XHS and the IH-555-01. I really like the special Pronto 25oz denim too, but I see it as being a bit different to regular indigo denim.

I love the XHS, so I voted for that and the 666 cut is a classic.

[Boyo]

thanks @neph93, I like your thinking re: the 666

[Dion]

The PIHXHS has my vote. It depends on Pronto if they want to rerun it in the future so this might be the only chance to snag them when they go extinct. And they're brilliant.

[Jett129]

My vote would depend on what you currently have and if you want to try something different.

[Boyo]

Jett129- I currently have the following IH Jeans
634S
633OD
633N
Nama Tako 888 ( a size too big though)

Dion- Im definitely considering the Extinction factor

[Jett129]

In that case I would definitely agree with Dion and go with the Pronto XHS. I have 2 of the Pronto collaborations and totally love them.

[Boyo]

@Jett129:

In that case I would definitely agree with Dion and go with the Pronto XHS. I have 2 of the Pronto collaborations and totally love them.

Thanks to the Sale today .. this is exactly what I've done.

[Dion]

Nice! Enjoy…

[neph93]

@Boyo:

@Jett129:

In that case I would definitely agree with Dion and go with the Pronto XHS. I have 2 of the Pronto collaborations and totally love them.

Thanks to the Sale today .. this is exactly what I've done.

Congratulations!

[Jett129]

Great minds think alike. I jumped on a pair of the Pronto XHS as well.

[Boyo]

Thanks @neph93 !

@Jett129  the timing was perfect! ..

Im still eyeing the 666xhs.. the sale price may be too good to miss…

[gaseousclay]

I’m being indecisive. 777-21’s or 777-142’s? Getting both is not an option [emoji848]

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[Jett129]

Do you currently have any of the 21OZ denim? If the answer is no,I would definitely recommend that over the 14OZ,especially with the colder/Minnesota weather coming up. Just my 2 cents.

[scooter]

^^THIS^^

[gaseousclay]

Patagonia or The North Face? I’ve had TNF gear forever but am leaning towards Patagonia this time because it’s a private company as opposed to a publicly traded company run by shareholders. I like their supply chain transparency as well but don’t know how their gear compares to TNF when it comes to warmth. Is Patagonia worth the extra $?

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[mclaincausey]

Patagonia is great, I'd go with them.

That said, TNF has a Gore Tex competitor coming out with excellent performance characteristics. There's a village I think in Vietnam that will be producing it. Getting a great fabric and supporting that village would be wins. Their Ventrix jackets are great medium weight non fleece options and I'm not sure Patagonia is as strong there. Patagonia does at least as well with down sweaters and until the new NF shell hits the market, shells.

The reasons you cite and Patagonias political commitment to the environment otherwise give them the edge for me.

[gaseousclay]

I think you’re right. I read an article that suggested both companies are committed to the environment but I would prefer privately owned over publicly traded any day.  The waters get muddied when shareholders get involved imo. It then becomes focused on profits and cost cutting over putting out the best possible product. I’m not saying TNF puts out garbage but company values do influence my purchases

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[Giles]

I'm a Patgucci fanboy and this is a brilliant read….

https://www.patagonia.com.au/pages/let-my-people-go-surfing

[JDelage]

Patagonia is fine - I have a number of items - and the quality can be very high, depending on the product. However, in recent years some of their fits have gotten so skinny that it can be uncomfortable (e.g., some of the jackets are very narrow in the chest). Read the users' comments.

Also, make sure you compare items feature by feature, as they are often a bit poorer on features than a similarly priced competitor. For example, look at 1-way vs 2-way zippers, number of pockets, whether the wrists have a stretch seal (vs a non stretch velcro you need to reposition each time you put the jacket on & off), etc.

I've got the feeling their attention has shifted from product quality to corporate responsibility in the last few years (at least for their less technical gear.)