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    • mclaincauseyM
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      This may register as an unpop: though I enjoy driving under certain circumstances, the advent of self-driving cars and the elimination of driver incompetence and recklessness is an opportunity to change the world in dramatic ways:

      • networked cars would make vastly better usage of roadways and reduce traffic considerably. Think of the cars as forming trains as they coordinate, yet are free to split whenever is needed to get you to your destination

      -less morbidity and mortality from car accidents

      -urban landscapes and land use could be vastly improved with the elimination of parking garages

      • ability to work during commute and reduction of road rage

      • get as drunk as you like, even during transit

      I'd like it if cars became sort of like Car2Go and Über mixed with real-time coordination. So, you'd call up a driverless cars just like Über and they'd take you to your destination, networked with all the other cars to do so expeditiously. Ride sharing would remain a cost saving option. The cars would be electric and programmed to return to charging bays as needed.

      Think it, be it.

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      • dave28D
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        @mclaincausey:

        • get as drunk as you like, even during transit

        Not sure they will ever allow that. In testing the people are fully sober and watching the road as normal aren't they ?

        Plus there is a video I seen of one being tested and the car ran someone over dead and the tester was being filmed in car. The tester went through the legal system but it was found that they were awake, sober and watching the road but did not have reasonable time to react.

        I think that is how it will go down in the future. After all you cant stop people walking onto roads suddenly and the police will want to know if the operator could have avoided it.

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        • manufc10M
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          That was in Phoenix where the Uber self driving car ran over a pedestrian and killed them, if that's what you're referring to.

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          • mclaincauseyM
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            @dave28:

            @mclaincausey:

            • get as drunk as you like, even during transit

            Not sure they will ever allow that. In testing the people are fully sober and watching the road as normal aren't they ?

            Plus there is a video I seen of one being tested and the car ran someone over dead and the tester was being filmed in car. The tester went through the legal system but it was found that they were awake, sober and watching the road but did not have reasonable time to react.

            I think that is how it will go down in the future. After all you cant stop people walking onto roads suddenly and the police will want to know if the operator could have avoided it.

            Yep probably drivers will at least in the near term be the failsafe–I thought of that post post.

            There will be a lot of alarmism as more self-driving cars kill people, but they will inevitably outperform human beings in that regard.

            Think it, be it.

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            • ChrisC
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              @Graeme:

              I caught the Greyhound from LA to Utah

              I once rode a Greyhound from Flagstaff to Las Vegas, and two things stand out about the experience. First, in the bus station there was a large wall clock with a sign directly affixed to the face that said, "Yes, this is the correct time."  Second, a guy got kicked off in Laughlin after he started a fight, thus missing his party in Vegas to celebrate his release from prison.

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              • dave28D
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                @manufc10:

                That was in Phoenix where the Uber self driving car ran over a pedestrian and killed them, if that's what you're referring to.

                It was in USA. You have amazing flat, wide, level and straight roads.

                In Wales where I live I have never seen such a road in my life lol.

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                • manufc10M
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                  @Chris:

                  @Graeme:

                  I caught the Greyhound from LA to Utah

                  I once rode a Greyhound from Flagstaff to Las Vegas, and two things stand out about the experience. First, in the bus station there was a large wall clock with a sign directly affixed to the face that said, "Yes, this is the correct time."  Second, a guy got kicked off in Laughlin after he started a fight, thus missing his party in Vegas to celebrate his release from prison.

                  That is classic.

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                  • ChrisC
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                    I feel like it's a perfect encapsulation of both Greyhound and Las Vegas.

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                    • gaseousclayG
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                      Wasn’t some guy decapitated on a Grey Hound awhile back? That was enough to keep me from taking the Grey Hound forever [emoji107]

                      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                      WTB:
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                      • ChrisC
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                        Waaaaaaay crazier than just a decapitation.

                        But that was in Canada.  You know what those people are like…

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                        • gaseousclayG
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                          @Chris:

                          Waaaaaaay crazier than just a decapitation.

                          But that was in Canada.  You know what those people are like…

                          Yep, that’s the guy 🤮

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                          • louisboscoL
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                            i'm not sure how i feel against self driving cars.

                            at the moment i'm well against it. and not just from a car enthusiast background. but self driving cars do create a lot of legal what ifs and extensions into things that we have no precedence for. you can take away the human side of driving and yet technology do fail in certain scenarios. not to mention it's only the driving you're taking the human input away from. you can't remove human input or error on the sidewalk, cross junctions and stuff.

                            it creates this new aspect as to 'who's to blame' as you cannot legally charge AIs at the moment. they're not 'a person' in the eyes of the law.

                            "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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                            • steelworkerS
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                              Half the assholes on the road are texting. That's artificial intelligence.

                              Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
                              Well, I have others.

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                              • steelworkerS
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                                @Chris:

                                Waaaaaaay crazier than just a decapitation.

                                But that was in Canada.  You know what those people are like…

                                wouldn't have had to try him in the States.

                                Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
                                Well, I have others.

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                                • Matty123M
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                                  Ok.
                                  Any Winehouse is better than Adele. ::hangs head::

                                  I was wrong

                                  Maybe so. Maybe not

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                                  • UnTuckedU
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                                    @Matty123:

                                    Ok.
                                    Any Winehouse is better than Adele. ::hangs head::

                                    I was wrong

                                    Welcome to the dark side!!!

                                    In search of:
                                    IHV-04, med.
                                    IHSH-185, large
                                    IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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                                    • Matty123M
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                                      @UnTucked at a cafe this morning they were playing the two artists back to back a few times and while I do love Adeles music. Amy Winehouse is superior.

                                      Maybe so. Maybe not

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                                      • UnTuckedU
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                                        @Matty123:

                                        @UnTucked at a cafe this morning they were playing the two artists back to back a few times and while I do love Adeles music. Amy Winehouse is superior.

                                        If this want the Unpop Op thread, I would agree more…

                                        But, since it is.....

                                        I hate cafes!!!!!

                                        In search of:
                                        IHV-04, med.
                                        IHSH-185, large
                                        IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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                                        • Matty123M
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                                          It was a bakery. You love bakeries! Who doesn’t love fresh baked goods on a Sunday?!

                                          Maybe so. Maybe not

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                                          • louisboscoL
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                                            depends what kind of baked goods you're talking about..

                                            "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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