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    • SeulS
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      Unpop-op: Vegan Reich 10" is the best sXe album ever made  😛

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      • Megatron1505M
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        @neph93:

        @Seul:

        There's an unpop-op in there somewhere but I'll be damned to be the one to get this thread back onto track…  😃

        As a mod I'm not even remotely interested in saving it 😃 Thread's fucked in a beautiful way and what's even better is that @Megatron1505 's head must be exploding at all the nostalgic love going on here. Love you Gav  😘  😉

        I’m all for letting conversation flow, plus i’m at least partially to blame for this nostalgia trip 😐

        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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        • tvenutoT
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          I’m all for eating meat and getting loaded you weird clean-living mofos. (I’ve inferred from this conversation that “sXe” is shorthand for some ungodly combination of life choices)

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          • S
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            I had to google it, I guessed sXe hast something to do with Sex so I was interested. Now that I know the meaning I am not a Fan, I am way to busy to load myself with more Problems  😃

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            • Matty123M
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              Straight edge my ass. I bet every one of the SxE people had a vice or an addiction. Unless your a Buddhist monk u ain’t straight edge or hardcore. Peace and love peace and love

              Maybe so. Maybe not

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              • Stuart.TS
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                it was a perfect lifestyle choice for a 20 year old lad who until that time had sold drugs with 'mates' in clubs and paid off doormen for the privilege, had hand guns pointed at his head, etc etc. it was also the time in my life that I felt fittest, healthiest, and happiest.

                I've eaten meat, been vegan, been rawfood, and now vegetarian. The difference now is I love a real ale and good rum. I've never forgotten the benefits of a vegan and non-alcohol lifestyle though. It feels amazing. Without alcohol you get a different understanding of yourself, you learn a self confidence that is necessarily present when you use alcohol when socialising. Having worked on mental health units I have got to see the devastation that alcohol and substance misuse causes, and the misery that the criminal aspects cause.

                To each their own, as long as it is a genuinely informed choice.

                weren't Boyzone just the greatest. I miss those guys.

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                • dave28D
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                  @Matty123:

                  Straight edge my ass. I bet every one of the SxE people had a vice or an addiction. Unless your a Buddhist monk u ain’t straight edge or hardcore. Peace and love peace and love

                  Maybe not. I near match them even though I never heard of them. I don't smoke, don't drink, don't do drugs, extremely rare I take Dr pills, no coffee and could quit tea if I really wanted.
                  A few of the other bits I think I could do because I have a real taste for fruit these days.

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                  • Matty123M
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                    I shouldn’t have spouted off. I respect whatever anyone wants to do. Youre on your path. I dig it.  I just want to fade the shit out of some denim.

                    Maybe so. Maybe not

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                    • mclaincauseyM
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                      Couldn't care less what others do as long as it doesn't interfere with what others (most especially myself and my loved ones, but ALL others) are doing. I've been "sXe" in a couple of forms throughout my life, and there is no question that there are people who live without vice.

                      There's also no question that, whether self-righteous or not, MacKaye lived his values. $5 shows, all all-ages, a do-it-yourself record label, never took major label bait, would crusade against violence in the audience, conscious lyrics about societal ills, etc. He made decisions that are easy to ridicule from afar, but would be impossible to make without character and commitment to ideals. It would be one thing if there were evidence of hypocrisy, but until I see it, I'll continue to admire him.

                      –decidedly NOT sXe-y

                      Think it, be it.

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                      • Stuart.TS
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                        @Matty123:

                        I shouldn’t have spouted off. I respect whatever anyone wants to do. Youre on your path. I dig it.  I just want to fade the shit out of some denim.

                        'And it harm none, do what ye wilt'… @matty123...I am a past master at spouting off mate, no worries. I'm with you, my life now consists of avoiding trouble, having the easiest and happiest day possible, and working on those fades  😉

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                        • tvenutoT
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                          Grains and grass beget 2 things: meat and booze. Your binocular vision allows you to hunt down the former and reach for the latter without spilling. Maybe this is an unpop op, but I hope not.

                          But hey, live and let live. I’m perfectly happy not sharing.

                          Another unpop op: drinking alone is awesome. I’m convinced there’s a social stigma attached because people don’t want you having so much fun without them.

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                          • organisysO
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                            @tvenuto:

                            drinking alone is awesome.

                            especially whisky

                            😛

                            Pride of Japan :-)

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                            • Stuart.TS
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                              Drinking spirits alone conjure two images for me…a troubled beat generation author or poet who's lost their mojo...or someone sitting in a puddle of their own piss eating a maxi bag of Doritos for lunch....doing the job I do I know the later is more of a reality.

                              That said, I enjoy the odd lonesome rum..while I'm deciding on the title of the 7th chapter and whether or not I can be bothered to get up to take a slash or not

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                              • Max PowerM
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                                Why should a good dram not be enjoyed alone? I have a harder time understanding drinking one in a crowded place with the wrong glass or ice.

                                One of the main Problems I had with SxE at one time (although I've been it for many years) was, that there's a difference between drinking for the sole purpose of getting drunk or partying and enjoying the taste (not the alcohol) of a fine drink. SxE focusses on the first part which makes sense when you're 16 but the second part was more important when you're over 25.
                                That's why I abandonded that concept one day.

                                @elclintor:

                                > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                                • Stuart.TS
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                                  @Max:

                                  Why should a good dram not be enjoyed alone? I have a harder time understanding drinking one in a crowded place with the wrong glass or ice.

                                  One of the main Problems I had with SxE at one time (although I've been it for many years) was, that there's a difference between drinking for the sole purpose of getting drunk or partying and enjoying the taste (not the alcohol) of a fine drink. SxE focusses on the first part which makes sense when you're 16 but the second part was more important when you're over 25.
                                  That's why I abandonded that concept one day.

                                  I agree @Max Power to some degree. I enjoy a good rum,  whisky, gin, or ale. That said my politicised views of sxe still stand. The socio economics of alcohol and tobacco are horrendous. The long term health deficits of alcohol use are serious, even for us casual drinkers. Our bodies are only designed to process toxins in small amounts, anymore puts undue stress so they cannot function properly.

                                  Teenage sxe without education and facts is not quite pointless, but will certainly be a fad for the young. Like most things, sxe meant something before the popular media decided to expose and exploit it.

                                  I have worked for 18 years 8n health and social care in the UK and have seen the effects first hand. The cost to the NHS of alcohol, tobacco, and diet related disease is astronomical and just cannot be sustained. I am all for taxing alcohol and tobacco into oblivion. Sure I enjoy a good quality drink, but not being able to do it anymore would be a small price for a healthier population and NHS.

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                                  • mclaincauseyM
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                                    Cannabis, on the other hand, has myriad sustainable industrial and healthcare uses and offers a net benefit to society, only becoming otherwise when criminalized.

                                    Even when I was sXe I always thought it was ludicrous that any entity would seek to dictate to private, sovereign citizens what they ingest into their bodies. That people have been locked in cages for something as comparatively (to alcohol and tobacco) harmless as pot always seemed to be a criminal abuse of power and a grievous injustice to me. Lives and families have been destroyed over this innocuous plant, while people are brutalized and killed routinely in drunken rampages or by the ravages of alcohol on their bodies.

                                    If we don't have freedom of cognition, we don't have freedom. I still believe that. Perhaps another unpopular opinion, and one I've shared here before: decriminalize all drugs.

                                    Think it, be it.

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                                    • Matty123M
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                                      Best ganja I ever copped  was in Denver. This was pre-legal era too. Thank you Denver.

                                      Maybe so. Maybe not

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                                      • dave28D
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                                        @mclaincausey:

                                        Lives and families have been destroyed over this innocuous plant

                                        Yep. The lives of users has been destroyed by adulterated grade of crap sold in the UK by criminals. Highly carcinogenic junk nicknamed soapbar or ratbar. Probably similar rubbish all over the world.

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                                        • manufc10M
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                                          @dave28:

                                          @mclaincausey:

                                          Lives and families have been destroyed over this innocuous plant

                                          Yep. The lives of users has been destroyed by adulterated grade of crap sold in the UK by criminals. Highly carcinogenic junk nicknamed soapbar or ratbar. Probably similar rubbish all over the world.

                                          I'm not familiar with that in my neck of the woods.  There's tons of dispensaries in the Phoenix area with endless amounts of high quality shit.  I don't even know if the kids these days buy their shit off the streets anymore.  I know the adults don't.

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                                          • manufc10M
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                                            @mclaincausey:

                                            Cannabis, on the other hand, has myriad sustainable industrial and healthcare uses and offers a net benefit to society, only becoming otherwise when criminalized.

                                            Even when I was sXe I always thought it was ludicrous that any entity would seek to dictate to private, sovereign citizens what they ingest into their bodies. That people have been locked in cages for something as comparatively (to alcohol and tobacco) harmless as pot always seemed to be a criminal abuse of power and a grievous injustice to me. Lives and families have been destroyed over this innocuous plant, while people are brutalized and killed routinely in drunken rampages or by the ravages of alcohol on their bodies.

                                            If we don't have freedom of cognition, we don't have freedom. I still believe that. Perhaps another unpopular opinion, and one I've shared here before: decriminalize all drugs.

                                            truth ^^^

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