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    • AppfaffA
      Appfaff
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      @Chris:

      Damn, ceiling fans, wall sconces, pendant lights, recessed cans, undercounter lights, and floodlights add up quick.  It's depressing to go over budget on lighting.  Not something fun, but lighting.

      My biggest pet peeve is to walk into a Beautiful home and it has boring, builders grade lighting.  You’d be surprised, but custom lighting helps adds a lot of value to the property as well, especially in competitive markets.

      Of course, lighting is a very personal thing, but still, having something cool shows you actually think about what’s in your home. Most of us (myself included) didn’t think about it until a few months into ownership and thought “man these lights are boring, too late now” lol

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      • mclaincauseyM
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        Agreed, @Anesthetist –and exterior lighting can really make a difference too, from a security, a practicality, and an aesthetic perspective. Not just the light, which can be dramatic and can help you see what the hell is going on at night, but the fixtures themselves can really improve the look of a home. We installed some exterior mission style lantern fixtures, and placed some smart bulbs tuned to a warm color and set on a dusk to dawn cycle. Home or not, the house lights up at night, offering another layer of security. One of them replaces a cheap, janky porch light, and two of them are added fixtures on either side of the garage door. This entirely improved how the house looks at night (and even during the day). We also added solar lawn lights to highlight the house and landscaping.

        I think there's a lot of bang for buck if you're smart about lighting. Perhaps it's not the most exciting thing to spend money on, but it carries a lot of satisfaction and ROI if done right.

        What I kind of dreaded spending money on was placing a new electrical service, as the only benefit it affords us in the near term is that it's not a fire hazard. If I were a hot tub guy I guess it would be exciting that I can now support that electrically, but it will take some significant expansion of our house and electrical needs for this to provide benefit beyond not having the house burn down.

        Think it, be it.

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        • ChrisC
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          @Appfaff:

          My biggest pet peeve is to walk into a Beautiful home and it has boring, builders grade lighting.

          Well luckily, we won't have a beautiful home, so our extensive use of can lights won't be out of place. 🙂  And in fairness to my wife, who picked everything, there are a few lights that are really cool.

          I should also note for the record that if we're comparing who shredded the budget most egregiously, I am the clear winner.  Lighting may be expensive, but it gets crushed by spray foam insulation and solar panels.

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          • AnesthetistA
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            Since our home is old and it would be a pain in the ass to run more wiring with all that plaster, we’ve invested in some really nice floor lamps. We have two Tolomeo Mega Floor lamps which put off a nice, warm light with parchment shades and a handful of Nelson bubble lamps/ Cigar pendant with hue bulbs. We have the Nesso Lamp by Artimede in our bedroom with 15w incandescents. Our big spurge for the dining room was a Moooi Random light and it’s my favorite lamp in the house.
            Moooi

            Nesso

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            IG: bluehandsslim

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            • GilesG
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              Just bought 4 of these (in nickel) for the new kitchen….

              https://limehouselighting.co.uk/products/cattura-pendant-large

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              • mclaincauseyM
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                @Chris:

                @Appfaff:

                My biggest pet peeve is to walk into a Beautiful home and it has boring, builders grade lighting.

                Well luckily, we won't have a beautiful home, so our extensive use of can lights won't be out of place. 🙂  And in fairness to my wife, who picked everything, there are a few lights that are really cool.

                I should also note for the record that if we're comparing who shredded the budget most egregiously, I am the clear winner.  Lighting may be expensive, but it gets crushed by spray foam insulation and solar panels.

                Those have a high ROI though. Lighting may or may not.

                Think it, be it.

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                • mikebarhootM
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                  Those are sharp G.

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                  • GraemeG
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                    Nice lights @Giles. Hopefully you'll soon get the bricks up high enough to hang them from something. 🙂

                    If anyone wants to spend too much on lights, 360volt in Amsterdam have a whole load of cool fittings, pennants, and tripods.

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                    • neph93N
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                      On occasion I’ve seen people criticise The Outlet for various reasons amongst others for devaluing the IH brand. Here’s an alternative strategy. Which makes more sense?

                      https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2018/jul/20/why-does-burberry-destroy-its-products-q-and-a?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

                      “Some of those that work forces
                      Are the same that burn crosses”

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                      • mclaincauseyM
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                        If Burberry are so concerned about the value of their brand, they should never have launched diffusion brands bearing their name. They should have maintained manufacture onshore and limited production.

                        Destroying inventory is a terrible practice, particularly given the human and ecological costs of the clothing supply chain.

                        Think it, be it.

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                        • SeulS
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                          @neph93:

                          On occasion I’ve seen people criticise The Outlet for various reasons amongst others for devaluing the IH brand.

                          You'd have to be quite selfish to say this…

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                          • mclaincauseyM
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                            @Seul:

                            @neph93:

                            On occasion I’ve seen people criticise The Outlet for various reasons amongst others for devaluing the IH brand.

                            You'd have to be quite selfish to say this…

                            I won't claim not to be selfish, but I give less than a shit about what others have and do. The joy that IH gives me is intrinsic and not governed by external factors like "oh no someone else has the same garment!"

                            IH for all, I say.

                            Think it, be it.

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                            • neph93N
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                              @Seul:

                              @neph93:

                              On occasion I’ve seen people criticise The Outlet for various reasons amongst others for devaluing the IH brand.

                              You'd have to be quite selfish to say this…

                              That argument, which I strenuously disagree with, has been countered by Giles with the rhetorical question “what else should we do, burn it?”. That some brands actually do that is entirely ridiculous, and that some people can’t enjoy an inexpensive purchase for what it is, is a mollifying sign of the times. IMHO, of course.

                              “Some of those that work forces
                              Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                @neph93:

                                @Seul:

                                @neph93:

                                On occasion I’ve seen people criticise The Outlet for various reasons amongst others for devaluing the IH brand.

                                You'd have to be quite selfish to say this…

                                That argument, which I strenuously disagree with, has been countered by Giles with the rhetorical question “what else should we do, burn it?”. That some brands actually do that is entirely ridiculous, and that some people can’t enjoy an inexpensive purchase for what it is, is a mollifying sign of the times. IMHO, of course.

                                I'm surprised that more companies don't implement a recycling program to offset the amount of environmental waste that goes with destroying product. A couple of companies were mentioned in the article that engage in such a practice but that seems like a drop in the bucket.

                                I think most here would agree that the Outlet does not devalue the IH brand in any way. No one can predict what will sell and what won't and if the outlet provides IHUK the means to break even then it's a win for everybody. I tend to view a brand's value through the lens of the second hand market, and IH is one of those few brands that retains its value long after it's gone extinct.

                                WTB:
                                IHSH-129 size L (blue)
                                IHSH-19

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                                  @neph93:

                                  On occasion I’ve seen people criticise The Outlet for various reasons amongst others for devaluing the IH brand. Here’s an alternative strategy. Which makes more sense?

                                  https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2018/jul/20/why-does-burberry-destroy-its-products-q-and-a?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

                                  I saw this today and straight away thought of the criticism of The Outlet and the response from IHUK a while ago.. crazy thinking by Burberry.

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                                  • mclaincauseyM
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                                    This is by no means unusual among luxury brands, y'all. Despicable, dimwitted, and irresponsible, but not uncommon.

                                    I'm glad I missed people complaining about getting discounted Iron Heart. Get the fuck over yourself!

                                    Think it, be it.

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                                    • GraemeG
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                                      Cartier destroyed €500 million of watches in order to preserve brand equity.

                                      https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/may/18/richemont-destroys-nearly-500m-of-watches-in-two-years-amid-buyback-policy

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                                      • mclaincauseyM
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                                        @Graeme:

                                        Cartier destroyed €500 million of watches in order to preserve brand equity.

                                        https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/may/18/richemont-destroys-nearly-500m-of-watches-in-two-years-amid-buyback-policy

                                        This bothers me less than clothing story in that the parts were almost certainly reused or melted down and recast, and it is in response to a change in the market driven by an unforeseen externality. But still, they are manipulating the market: the fact that they were able to scale production to capture the Chinese bribery market, then to artificially modify supply when that market collapsed, to me that is less special than a watchmaker who limits production because they are using skilled labor to make well-finished timepieces. I wouldn't want to pay for artificial scarcity.

                                        I understand the core principles of matching supply to demand and protecting brand equity.

                                        That said, if you don't want to be commoditized, don't mass manufacture. I'd be surprised to see Patek Philippe destroying timepieces.

                                        Think it, be it.

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                                        • manufc10M
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                                          http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/07/20/man-arrested-for-allegedly-killing-co-worker-by-forcing-compressed-air-up-his-buttocks.amp.html

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                                          • neph93N
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                                            @mclaincausey:

                                            I'm glad I missed people complaining about getting discounted Iron Heart.

                                            The last guy who did so was on the receiving end of a biblical shitstorm. I’m on tapatalk (and holiday) so I’m not going to look up the link (sorry), but I think it was on the “Iron Heart USA” thread.

                                            “Some of those that work forces
                                            Are the same that burn crosses”

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