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I'll check that out.
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Fuck the Beatles, and the Stones suck too
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I played drums my entire life,and for me it’s all about the groove,the X factor that makes you tap your foot when you here a song. All the great bands have to have a minimum level in competency at bass and drums for whatever it is they’re doing to work. I can’t think of any successful band that had a crappy rhythm section. Even The Ramones who weren’t great musicians had a great rhythm section for what they wanted to do. If you have a chance go to YouTube and watch a live video of Zeppelin doing The Ocean.
Trust in the pros to come up with the goods. Well said @Jett129. Math drumming can be interesting, ridiculous levels of precision and complexity can be awe inspiring, but the key to great music lies in the ability of the drummer and bassist to make the whole thing excite you somewhere other than your brain or your ear.
While we're throwing out firecrackers:
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RHCP would be a decent band if Keidis wasn't in them at all. He ruins everything. He can't sing, nor should he be allowed to write lyrics. Ever.
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While Physical Graffiti is flawed, any song on it is better than anything ever made by a rock band in the 90's.
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Fuck the Beatles, and the Stones suck too
You don't even mean that. Shit stirrer
Hahahhaha.
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I mean the first part, I genuinely hate the Beatles.
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While we're throwing out firecrackers:
- RHCP would be a decent band if Keidis wasn't in them at all. He ruins everything. He can't sing, nor should he be allowed to write lyrics. Ever.
QFT. The beef between Keidis and Mike Patton of Faith No More is hilarious. I rank Mike Patton highly when it comes to vocal range and creativity, so seeing youtube videos of him talking shit about Keidis fills me with joy. I think the short answer went something like this: Keidis thought Patton was copying his style (or some such thing) and had Patton's band, Mr. Bungle, kicked off their European tour. There's a funny youtube vid of Mr Bungle clowning the RHCP's by doing a cover of one of their songs and dressing up like them.
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Also, Faith No More are a billion times better than the Red Hot Chili Peppers, I feel ashamed to have mentioned them in the same sentence.
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I mean the first part, I genuinely hate the Beatles.
Same.
Third. Rock and roll didn’t begin until 1977 as far as I’m concerned.
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I was always a Mountain and Spirit person. A bit before 77.
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Rock and roll didn’t begin until 1977 as far as I’m concerned.
I'm not really up on dinosaur rock, but I'm guessing Van Halen?
And yes, The Beatles are musical cancer.
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no way… the beatles are goat...
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I like music from this century. Old stuff sucks.
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@IronKnuckleHead:
Also possibly worth mentioning: Entombed are one of my favorite bands. Swedes in general do heavy music right.
Their first 2 albums are fantastic and then they did Wolverine Blues which was a big wtf. Haven't listened to them since. But then again, I haven't followed them because I think they broke up at that time and then reformed years later. Don't even know if it's the original lineup anymore.
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Rock and roll didn’t begin until 1977 as far as I’m concerned.
I'm not really up on dinosaur rock, but I'm guessing Van Halen?
https://www.spin.com/2007/09/1977-year-punk-exploded/
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@IronKnuckleHead:
I can go down the list…Metallica, Slipknot, Pantera, Slayer, etc...all have insanely tight rhythm sections with technical ability on an extremely high level and they write good songs to boot. Personal taste aside, Zepellin doesn't touch them.
"Insanely tight" isn't necessarily a good thing IMHO. I'd probably also put Crazy Horse in my top five rhythm sections, so take from that what you will. Metallica's first record I like and then I'm into Load. Everything in between… meh. Pantera sound like someone gave a roided up chimp raised in a trailer park a guitar. Unironically better when they were a speed metal band. "Phil Anselmo's pain burns in the heart of my little brother." Never much listened to Slipknot but that's not by accident. Slayer are decent, but you'll be not very surprised to hear that I like their first two records better than the rest. I don't dislike their later stuff, just prefer the earlier records.
As far as the rest of this conversation goes... link related.
Also possibly worth mentioning: Entombed are one of my favorite bands. So it's not heavy music that I think is boring, it's this super stiff, soulless take on it I don't like. Harm's Way are another heavy band with some riffs off the top of my head to say nothing of bands like Discharge or Anti-Cimex. Swedes in general do heavy music right.
As far as "super tight" and "technically proficient" go, I'd put the JBs or Parliament light years ahead of any metal band in both regards… and you can dance to it.
Entombed was decent. Always liked their guitar tone. I actually liked a few tracks off of Wolverine Blues. Carcass was actually one of my favorite metal bands back in the day in that genre. Amazing riffs, melodic yet heavy and a great guitar tone as well, under appreciated IMO. I also dug Machine Head and Nailbomb back in the day but so many of these bands stay trapped in a box creatively and their vocalists are very poor to be honest. It gets insanely montonous with the few exceptions.
Metallica gets a lot of hate as expected and I'm not a fan of all of their albums but Load and Reload are terrible. At the end of the day they still have it in them to write a great thrash metal song (see "Spit out the Bone") though.Again, this topic is just turning into what bands and albums we liked. It's not about that. When you talk about "greatest rhythm section ever" and statements like that you have to put your personal taste on the back burner a bit IMO. For example Rush is amazingly talented in that regard and I respect their talent but I'm not a fan of their music at all. But I'm not going to rank them low and make statements like 'they suck and sound like shit just because I don't care for their music. Being a musician I still respect them.
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I played drums my entire life,and for me it’s all about the groove,the X factor that makes you tap your foot when you here a song. All the great bands have to have a minimum level in competency at bass and drums for whatever it is they’re doing to work. I can’t think of any successful band that had a crappy rhythm section. Even The Ramones who weren’t great musicians had a great rhythm section for what they wanted to do. If you have a chance go to YouTube and watch a live video of Zeppelin doing The Ocean.
And I haven't played guitar my entire life, think that's almost impossible?
but I have played for 26 years….holy fuck I'm getting old.
