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    • manufc10M
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      Gyms are not necessary at the end of the day.  You can build a great physique without weights.  Prison inmates are perfect examples of that.

      I'm an ecto/meso so I've generally been a hardgainer but it can be done but I'll never be a massive dude without some synthetic help.  I've trained naturally every since I started lifting weights.

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      • spitfiredealerS
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        Gaining extra mass is something I chased throughout my 20’s and into my 30’s. It was only when I got to 96kg I realised it was pointless and wasn’t doing me any good. Let alone the hassle of finding jeans that would fit over my legs. I am now 80kg and feel fitter and more comfortable than ever.
        To anyone trying to gain loads of mass I would say don’t bother it really isn’t worth it.

        Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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        • BloodnThunderB
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          @der:

          RIP R. Lee Ermey. Gone too young. 😞

          I don't think you'll get too many people to disagree with this ^.  A legend.

          IG: Shadesofindig0

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          • manufc10M
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            The Doors are overrated.

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            • neph93N
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              @manufc10:

              The Doors are overrated.

              Especially after hearing Forever Changes.

              Still controversial though. Good one.

              «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
              We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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              • manufc10M
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                I was about 15 the first time I heard them.  I'm a musician, open minded, appreciate and have a respect for bands for what they are even if I don't particularly like them.  I've tried for the past 23 years to appreciate The Doors but I just can't.  Highly overrated and at times just downright glorified lounge music with a front man spewing bad psychedelic influenced spoken word type poetry.

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                • manufc10M
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                  @manufc10:

                  The Doors are overrated.

                  Especially after hearing Forever Changes.

                  Still controversial though. Good one.

                  And see I've never even heard of Forever Changes till just now.  After a quick Google search I've decided I need to look into them.

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                  • neph93N
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                    @manufc10:

                    And see I've never even heard of Forever Changes till just now.

                    Basically an amazing rock album, just played almost exclusively on acoustic guitar.

                    Love were contemporary with The Doors on the LA scene back then but never made the commercial breakthrough that Jim and the boys did. When you hear the whole album you will understand that this is a criminal injustice.

                    «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                    We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                      Saw them live 3 times and thought they were absolutely phenomenal,in terms of their ensemble playing. Think Morrison was one of the best front men ever,and Densmore is one of the most underrated drummers. Krieger and Manzarek were no slouches at their respective instruments either. If you don't like them you don't like them. For what it's worth I was never high when I saw them.

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                      • manufc10M
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                        Just listening to the first track and I can already agree with you.

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                        • ChrisC
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                          @manufc10:

                          The Doors are overrated.

                          True.
                          Though not as overrated as Led Zepplin.

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                          • manufc10M
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                            @manufc10:

                            The Doors are overrated.

                            True.
                            Though not as overrated as Led Zepplin.

                            Possibly…though honestly I haven't listened to a whole lot of Led Zeppelin to make a fair judgement on that one.

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                              @neph93 They've just released a special 5OTH Anniversary edition/boxed set of Forever Changes on Rhino Records. Check it out. Love were bigger than you might've thought in the states during the late 60s,obviously not as commercially successful as The dreadful Doors.

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                              • SeulS
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                                "Zeppelin ruuuuuuuuules!"

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                                  ^Thank you!

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                                  • manufc10M
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                                    Are we referring to Zeppelin or The Doors?

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                                      Zeppelin

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                                      • scooterS
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                                        @manufc10:

                                        Are we referring to Zeppelin or The Doors?

                                        No doubt, Zeppelin. The Doors didn't have a dedicated bassist. Even if they did, I don't believe Densmore was quite the talent Bonham was.

                                        While the duo of Bonham/Jones was certainly one of the greats, I'd put the likes of Peart/Lee and Moon/Entwistle ahead of them. On my list, of course.

                                        Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

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                                        • manufc10M
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                                          Zeppelin

                                          That's what I thought, just wanted to make sure I was following.

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                                          • goosehdG
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                                            For those of you who do not like Zeppelin,  😞

                                            “I fart in your general direction, your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries…”  😃

                                            "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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