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IH-888-NT - 21/23oz indigo Selvedge DWC Jeans

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    mpukas
    Raw and Unwashed
    Joined: 17 Jan 2014

    Re: post-fit pics in my previous post a few pages back: I had soaked the jeans in-side out for about an hour, and then ran two back-to-back washes in front loader on hand wash cycle with slow spin, and then a short stint in the dryer. The jeans were in water for several hours by then. A couple days after that, I gave them another hot wash and a short tumble dry (in-side out). There was minimal shrinkage, but weirdly the inseam measured 1/2" longer than previously - original was 35.5; after 1st & 2nd washing it was 34.0, and after 3rd it was 34.5.

    ALSO - I iron my jeans after the initial washes, before any combs, whiskers, etc. start to set in. I find ironing really relaxes the fabric and makes it drape much better. I also find it stretches out the fabric slightly, and I get slightly larger measurements after ironing. It also gets out any weird creases/folds along the seams that I get from washing. In my above washing & measurements, I ironed the jeans after each washing, so my measurements were consistent.

    I attribute the length differences to measuring error, and level of fabric stiffness at different stages.

    My ironing routine is to turn in-side out, fold the legs flat seam-to-seam, and iron the selvedge outseam flat, and the inseam flat. I stay away from the edges to avoid creasing. I then turn right-side out, fold seam-to-seam, and iron the seams flat again. Then fold the legs flat front-to-back with seams on the sides, and iron the center of the legs, front and back. Finally I use the end of the board to iron as much as possible around the waist and hips. After a few weeks of wear and a couple washings, the denim is usually relaxed enough that ironing is no longer a benefit.

    So far I still didn't get as much shrink as I expected, and the fit is slightly looser than I'm used to. But that makes them very comfortable and I have great range of motion. And, I'm happy to report, I didn't get any crocking along any folds from washing, drying and ironing - they look perfect and ready to fade.

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      jmg65coupe302
      Joined: 24 Oct 2017

      @Chris:

      I've had similar mishaps, from both ends of my children, though happily, not both ends or both children at the same time.  Iron Heart, Studio d'Artisan, and Oni jeans have all survived infant attacks.

      @Chris and @YesBlank, ah yes, the diaper mishap. I had my old PBJs hit with a diaper blowout when my older daughter was a baby. I remember my wife wondering why I ran off to the washing machine so quickly that day. Good times…

      Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

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        fanya
        Joined: 28 Nov 2012

        @jmg65coupe302:

        Thanks @Matty123 and @Neph93, that's a relief. I did forget to mention that I used a bit of Dr. Bronner's soap in the wash, hopefully that doesn't "set the dye" like what it says all over the web.

        Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

        I'll never understand what this "set the dye" thing is about soaking/washing.  The faded pair are the 25oz fabric, that have seen 25-30 soaks.

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          Matty123
          Raw and Unwashed
          Joined: 4 Apr 2017

          Certain people believe there are things u can do to raw denim that will inhibit fading.

          I don’t know about setting the dye through soaking and washing. As I stated that isn’t a problem.i know soaking and washing  helps Set the stitching of raw loomrate denim.

          Maybe so. Maybe not

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            Chris
            Raw and Unwashed
            Joined: 28 Jun 2010

            There are all sorts of crazy myths on the internet. I'm pretty sure there's nothing you can do to stop indigo dyed fabric from fading besides leave it in a dark closet and never wear it.

            Besides, the point of this contest is to wear and care for your jeans in your usual manner and then see what they look like after two years.  The individuality of each pair, in spite of whether the owner did things "right" or "wrong", is what makes it all interesting.

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              Jordanxbuffer
              Joined: 7 Jan 2017

              @Chris:

              There are all sorts of crazy myths on the internet. I'm pretty sure there's nothing you can do to stop indigo dyed fabric from fading besides leave it in a dark closet and never wear it.

              Besides, the point of this contest is to wear and care for your jeans in your usual manner and then see what they look like after two years.  The individuality of each pair, in spite of whether the owner did things "right" or "wrong", is what makes it all interesting.

              This!!!

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                Giles
                IHUK Crew
                Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                The only way we know how to inhibit fading, is some seriously sexy (and no, we won't tell you what it is) treatment we give the denim before making garments.

                Any other suggestion is as Chris would say, an internet myth.  Or as I would say, complete bollocks….

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  joephoto
                  Raw and Unwashed
                  Joined: 2 Nov 2016

                  New Belt… New Wallet... and new jeans

                  I feel I can now start DWC 2017-19.

                  Day three on the jeans, one soak, and they feel fine.

                  Ohhhhhh that constitutional stitching!

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                    mikebarhoot
                    Iron Heart Deity
                    Joined: 15 Dec 2015

                    ^noice!

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                      BloodnThunder
                      Raw and Unwashed
                      Joined: 20 May 2015

                      ^^  So much evolution to track.

                      IG: Shadesofindig0

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                        joephoto
                        Raw and Unwashed
                        Joined: 2 Nov 2016

                        That was the purpose of making sure I had all three ready to go.

                        @BloodnThunder:

                        ^^  So much evolution to track.

                        Ohhhhhh that constitutional stitching!

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                          Matty123
                          Raw and Unwashed
                          Joined: 4 Apr 2017

                          Sending mine to indigo proof for hemming this week. Leaving them about 1.5” longer than my normal hem. I only lost .8 in the first Soak and wash. Besides who gives a f*ck… I’m gonna murder these jeans.

                          Maybe so. Maybe not

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                          • J
                            Jordanxbuffer
                            Joined: 7 Jan 2017

                            Soaked the replacement pair last night and they shrank more in the hem! Woo. This pair was WAY more responsive to the 2 hot soaks I did.

                            Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                              Norrin
                              Joined: 16 Oct 2016

                              I know I'm going to be in the minority on this, but so far I've been underwhelmed by these jeans!
                              Which is a real shame as I was really looking forward to receiving my pair.
                              I have reasonably large thighs myself and had hoped from the measurements that these were going to be a great cut for me. What I've found however, is that they seem to have an accentuated hip measurement, which seems a bit odd to me. They seem to cinch in at the waist and come out at the hips, as if they were cut more for a woman.
                              I've been wearing them this weekend after having soaked and washed them four times now, to try and get all the shrink out. The waist shrinks so that i cant do them up, but soons stretches out, so maybe i could have squeezed into a pair of 36" instead of my usual 38".
                              So far though I much prefer my 38" 21oz 634S for feeling the right fit.
                              I shall persevere with them, in the hope that things improve.

                              Don't hate me if you love this cut in this denim, it's just my observations so far. 😢

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                                fanya
                                Joined: 28 Nov 2012

                                ^^The 633 cut did the same thing for me.

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                                  neph93
                                  見習いボス
                                  Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                  No hate, honest observations are welcome. Thing is, different cuts work in different ways on different bodies and not everyone can wear every cut. Personally, i love the top block on the 666 and 634, but the straight leg isn’t the best for my (ahem) chunkiness. The taper on the 555 is brilliant, but the top block tends to be a bit ragged. I haven’t even tried the 777 because I’m fairly sure my afrobutt won’t get on with the low rise. The 888 is good for me though.

                                  I’ve tried the 888 in the 21oz and have the UHR inbound. My thinking is, you can definitely size down as the high rise means the waistband hits at a slimmer part of the torso (on many).

                                  «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                  We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

                                  • Dame Vera Lynn
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                                    Jordanxbuffer
                                    Joined: 7 Jan 2017

                                    @neph93:

                                    No hate, honest observations are welcome. Thing is, different cuts work in different ways on different bodies and not everyone can wear every cut. Personally, i love the top block on the 666 and 634, but the straight leg isn’t the best for my (ahem) chunkiness. The taper on the 555 is brilliant, but the top block tends to be a bit ragged. I haven’t even tried the 777 because I’m fairly sure my afrobutt won’t get on with the low rise. The 888 is good for me though.

                                    I’ve tried the 888 in the 21oz and have the UHR inbound. My thinking is, you can definitely size down as the high rise means the waistband hits at a slimmer part of the torso (on many).

                                    This. I went with a 36 only because of my thunder thighs and booty. If not for them I could have EASILY sized down to 35.

                                    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                                      ROman
                                      Haraki san Prodigy
                                      Joined: 5 Jan 2015

                                      @neph93:

                                      No hate, honest observations are welcome. Thing is, different cuts work in different ways on different bodies and not everyone can wear every cut. Personally, i love the top block on the 666 and 634, but the straight leg isn’t the best for my (ahem) chunkiness. The taper on the 555 is brilliant, but the top block tends to be a bit ragged. I haven’t even tried the 777 because I’m fairly sure my afrobutt won’t get on with the low rise. The 888 is good for me though.

                                      I’ve tried the 888 in the 21oz and have the UHR inbound. My thinking is, you can definitely size down as the high rise means the waistband hits at a slimmer part of the torso (on many).

                                      I agree with @neph93  I started out wearing 633 and 634 that I got from Self Edge. I always felt that I was yanking the waist up on these. Then I found this site and have found that the 1955 UHR, 1955 S, IHXBO1 UHR, and now the 888 S and UHR fit me the best.

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                                        Matty123
                                        Raw and Unwashed
                                        Joined: 4 Apr 2017

                                        Sending mine out to Rain tomorrow. I should have them back in a week. I’ll reserve judgement for when I get then back but I’m feeling optimistic about the  fit once they stretch back  outa littlet. My size 42 634s are almost unwearable at this point due to weight loss. And most likely unsellable due to waist/hen length 42/28.5…. I’m still Wearing my Pronto 25 II.

                                        Maybe so. Maybe not

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                                          Matty123
                                          Raw and Unwashed
                                          Joined: 4 Apr 2017

                                          @neph93  “Afro butt”  😃 I hope you don’t hold a high position at a company where coworkers can and do read your forum posts. Because This has got  “scandal” graffiti written,  on the side of a subway, in low income neighborhood, all Over it.

                                          Maybe so. Maybe not

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