Time For a New Jeans Cut….
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Since pockets are being discussed again, I'll restate my previous thoughts - the pocket opening need to be cut low and loose enough (without flaring out and looking silly) so that you can get your hand into them, and the pocket bags need to be deep enough so that an item - not just the current trendiest iPhone - sits low enough so that it's below the thigh crease. I've put credit cards in my front pockets, and at the end of the day take them out and discover they've been bent in half 'cuz they sit right at my thigh crease.
This may not generally be true, but I've noticed that Japanese fellas tend to wear the jeans a little looser than Westerners. This gives more room for pocket opening access, and tends to have the jeans sit a little lower on waist/hips so that pocket bags are a little farther down on the thigh.
I have/have had other brads that fit as tight or tighter than my 634-XHS (which are admittedly a size too small) and I don't have the same issues with pocket opening being too small of pocket bags not being deep enough. This isn't an issue about accommodating some trend-of-the-day or taking inspiration from some repro brand - it's about practicality.
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I have taken a lot of feedback re: the new cut and I have submitted my requirements to H. A sample will be made in due course, if I thinks it's shite or does not meet my specs, I'll change it, otherwise it will stay as is.
As previously stated, anxiously awaiting!
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H loves a tight pocket, that's why they are like they are….. You have to remember, this is his brand, ultimately, he'll only do what he likes and what pleases him. If people don't like what he does, he won't lose any sleep.
Re: pocket bag depth, I don't think I've heard that observation before. Anyone else like to chime in?
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I think you're right, a lower rise would single handedly solve the phone-in-pocket issue of the 1955S. In 36 the rise is 13.5, opposed to the regular 11 you'd see elsewhere.
Richard, that is the point. These are our take on a 1955 Levi's 501. They have an unashamedly large rise because that is what a 1955 501 had…..
I understand that, we were just discussing the logistics of our "pocket problem", and how it'll be less, but not eleviated, by this new style being 1.5 inches lower is rise (assuming same depth of pocket). I'm just glad we sparked the conversation if it's not been heard before.
Edit: No intention of making you alter dimensions of a classic cut, incase it came across as if I did…
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I'm sill going to wear my 1955s until they fall off my legs, but will always welcome a cut that could suit me better.
It's hard to differentiate helpful feedback from petulant demands on the internet, but I'm pretty sure the comments here were intended as the former.
Entirely agree on with the sentiment of wearing the 1955S till they fall apart, and definitely mentioning it just to be helpful, I assumed it wasn't just me.
I found this forum before I bought an Iron Heart product… ironically I only started to Google jeans because I have big thighs in proportion to my waist, and it has become much harder with recent fashion trends to buy anything that would fit me. There were thousands of posts online from sportsmen and gym enthusiasts who had grown themselves out of regular jeans- evidently quite an issue. I hate stretch jeans and thin fabric jeans, and wear them out so damn fast (perhaps 30 full days wear before crotch blows). If I hadn't found the 1955S I'd have worn jeans a LOT less this past year. I'm a convert to the fabric and the build quality and would love a second option from Iron Heart, hence my enthusiasm since finding this thread!!
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H loves a tight pocket, that's why they are like they are….. You have to remember, this is his brand, ultimately, he'll only do what he likes and what pleases him. If people don't like what he does, he won't lose any sleep.
I like everything about this statement. I just caught up on this model and I can't wait to see what you all cook up.
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See i like the shallow pockets. All i put in my front pockets is a bit of loose change and notes. Phone fades are horrible IMO.
Also the deeper the pocket the lower down your leg the pocket fade is going to appear which i don't personally like. My UES has really deep front pockets and you can clearly see them now they are faded.
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Oh yeah i know this. I was just letting you know there was some love for your small pockets
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^ i'm with @spitfiredealer on this. I keep nothing in front pockets apart from small things I stick there for two minutes so as to keep my hands free, car keys, pocket knife, zippo (if I'm smoking), thumbs for when I'm pretending to be James Dean.
Muck around with pocket openings and pocket bags and you muck around with the whole front of the top block, which on most IH cuts is bloody lovely. Practical needs are all well and good, but lets not forget we buy IH jeans because they look sharp af as well.
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Oh yeah i know this. I was just letting you know there was some love for your small pockets
I know you were. I was only saying that because we all have a tendency to think what we think is good is the best, well luckily it aint otherwise the world would be a very boring place…..
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Yep, I'm with neph and spitfire on this one. Cell phone fades are not attractive and all I put in my front pockets is my key fob. I've actually noticed I'll use my back pockets for random items through out the day.
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I have a pair of Strike Gold and those pockets are silly deep. I find it annoying. My watch or bracelet gets caught on the pocket opening while trying to dig for change. IH depth seems to be spot on. As for the width of opening tho? Id like them a bit wider personally. My hands JUST make it in and with my knife being there too, i have to struggle to get my hand in.
Maybe i just have too big of hands? Idk lol -
I kinda like the tight pockets, nobody is gonna steal shit from those… of course you're going to learn some minor gymnastics to remove items from pockets while seated, but I seem to have mastered this
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Ask a 100 people and you get 101 opinions…...
Too true
I fully agree that pockets that are too deep are also problematic, as pillowPANTS pointed out, watch bands can get hung up on the top of the pocket opening, and you can't even reach the bottom (and I rarely wear a watch).
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I have a pair of Strike Gold and those pockets are silly deep. I find it annoying. My watch or bracelet gets caught on the pocket opening while trying to dig for change. IH depth seems to be spot on. As for the width of opening tho? Id like them a bit wider personally. My hands JUST make it in and with my knife being there too, i have to struggle to get my hand in.
Maybe i just have too big of hands? Idk lolI'm in this camp. I don't put anything in my pockets, but that is because I can barely get my hands in them. I find this is only the case with my 634 and 666. I'm able to use (and do) the pockets in my chinos (every iteration).
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