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IH-816DD - Double Indigo Rope Dyed Canvas Work Pants

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    Max Power
    Raw and Unwashed
    Joined: 31 Oct 2010

    Haha, I love it on pants, but no on shirts if that makes sense.

    @elclintor:

    > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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      Max Power
      Raw and Unwashed
      Joined: 31 Oct 2010

      Some evo…sorry for the blurry pictures.

      @elclintor:

      > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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        tmg
        Joined: 10 Sept 2010

        Given that I own both the standard 816 (navy) and Loom Breakers, I'm curious as to the actual difference between how the two fabrics are dyed - my navy 816 appear quite different to my Loom Breakers, yet they are double indigo, which I thought would make them more like the standard navy 816 in colour?

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          Giles
          IHUK Crew
          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

          The standard navy IH-816 are a completely different fabric from the Loom Breakers, they are reactive dyed 17oz navy blue canvas.  If you in fact mean the IH-816DD then that is the same warp and the same weft as the Loom Breakers's but woven on a projectile loom not a shuttle loom, both at 18oz.

          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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            deanclean
            Iron Heart Deity
            Joined: 17 Jan 2014

            I have no idea about all that. Can only say those evo photos are looking good. It's getting cool enough now here to be wearing mine pretty much every day. Nice to see what I can look forward to.

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              tmg
              Joined: 10 Sept 2010

              Yes, I was comparing the fabric of the standard 816 to the LB's,  but didn't realise they were that different, just assumed that they were essentially the same in terms of material and the weaving process but went through different dye processes. So how does the double indigo process differ to the reactive dye process? Is it just the permanence of the colour?

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                Giles
                IHUK Crew
                Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                The double indigo is rope dyed…In the rope dying process, the indigo oxidises onto the surface of the yarn but does not penetrate the core.  Fading is really just the rubbing off of this oxidised layer and exposing the white core of the yarn.

                In reactive dying, the dye is a coloured organic substance (in this case navy), it attaches itself to the yarn by a chemical reaction and forms a covalent bond between the molecule of the dye and the molecule of the yarn.  It is highly stable and you should be able to wash a reactive dyed garment with a white t-shirt with no ill effect.

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  tmg
                  Joined: 10 Sept 2010

                  G, thanks for the comprehensive answer, that's exactly what I was looking for, and great to see 'covalent' used in a discussion about pants [emoji1]

                  I'm seriously considering a pair of these 816DD's as an additional pair of work pants alongside my regular 816's since the fit is so good.

                  last edited by 18 Nov 2015, 16:07 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                    Giles
                    IHUK Crew
                    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                    I thought you'd like covalent…. 😃 😃

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      apba1166
                      Joined: 20 Dec 2010

                      Well, if he doesn't, I certainly do. (covalent)

                      And agree w/him about the fit of these. My khaki ones are great, and it is all I can do not to OD on all the rest of them.

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                        deanclean
                        Iron Heart Deity
                        Joined: 17 Jan 2014

                        Soaked my 816DD's for the first time today to give them a refresh. I think this is the first time I haven't had to weigh down a pair of pants while soaking!

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                          zatenm
                          Raw and Unwashed
                          Joined: 11 Nov 2012

                          Looks like a cold soak @deanclean ?

                          Have you measured them pre-soak and are you planning on measuring them post?
                          That would be immensely helpful as mine are a bit tight around the thighs and I'm dreading to soak/wash them for fear of not fitting into them anymore

                          WTB: IHSH-154 Grey M, IHSH-91 M

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                            T.J.
                            Joined: 10 Apr 2015

                            I gave mine a Lukewarm Soak. I had about 1 cm shrinkage length and wide wise..

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                              T.J.
                              Joined: 10 Apr 2015

                              But they will stretch out again a bit

                              last edited by 25 Nov 2015, 17:21 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                deanclean
                                Iron Heart Deity
                                Joined: 17 Jan 2014

                                I measured before and I am most concerned about the waist. The are a 36 and fit perfect. The shrunk during the soak but when they were wet I put a spreader in the waist to keep them at 36 as they dry

                                last edited by 25 Nov 2015, 17:44 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                  zatenm
                                  Raw and Unwashed
                                  Joined: 11 Nov 2012

                                  Very helpful , thanks indeed @thomas01 and @deanclean [emoji106]

                                  WTB: IHSH-154 Grey M, IHSH-91 M

                                  last edited by 25 Nov 2015, 17:50 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • SamS
                                    Sam
                                    Joined: 21 May 2015

                                    Not always one to leave things to the last minute… well actually i am but it usually forces me to do some of my best work. Giles wanted some updated shots of his 816-DD's before he flies off to Japan and he's leaving tomorrow! Hope you enjoy!

                                    SP

                                    Insta - @braveinthefaceoflasers

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                                      spitfiredealer
                                      Raw and Unwashed
                                      Joined: 8 Apr 2013

                                      Great pics Sam

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                                        Aetas
                                        見習いボス
                                        Joined: 19 Jun 2013

                                        Yes indeed @Sam

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                                          superfuzz
                                          Joined: 31 Dec 2012

                                          Wow, I think the fit on these won't work for me, but these pics have probably sold me on getting a pair of 666DD when I retire my 666Ds.

                                          last edited by 2 Dec 2015, 19:54 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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