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    IH-816DD - Double Indigo Rope Dyed Canvas Work Pants

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    • M
      mormonez
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      @Giles:

      Post wash dimensions of tag-size 34:

      Waist  34
      FR  11.2
      RR  15.7
      Thigh  12.7
      Knee  9.3
      Hem  8.3
      Inseam  36

      thats a lot of shrinkage on hem, from 9 to 8.3, or is it altered?
      am considering between size 32 and 33, 33 looks good on the thigh , how much should i expect the shrinkage on hem.
      thx!!

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      • GilesG
        Giles
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        Those measurements are the sample pair and are largely irrelevant now.

        I'd expect no more than 0.2" shrinkage in the hem….

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        • N
          nycs10011
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          Same fit as the Duck Loggers?

          Thanks!

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          • GilesG
            Giles
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            Similar, but not the same…...You'll have to actually compare the measurements....

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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            • SamS
              Sam
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              Giles finally got out of his 816-DD's for a change so i got some snaps…

              4 months of wear

              Insta - @braveinthefaceoflasers

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              • deancleanD
                deanclean
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                Looks so good. I love mine too. Can't say enough about those pants. I love the blue thread on blue fabric

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                • VaterundSohnV
                  VaterundSohn
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                  Midnight Tuxedo cross post. Looking at your pictures, Giles is solo promising! Awesome fabric!

                  Visit our store or shop online @ www.vaterundsohn-hamburg.com - you are welcome.

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                  • Max PowerM
                    Max Power
                    Raw and Unwashed
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                    Got me a size 36today. The fit is super relaxed, just need them shortened.

                    @elclintor:

                    > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                    • Max PowerM
                      Max Power
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                      Size 36 after having them hemmed. The cuffs look sloppy and are stiff as hell, I hope they'll settle with some wear. They are super comfy and relaxed, like sweatpants (if it wasn't for the stiff material). Being onewash certainly helps to get a softer feel, but the're still rigid.






                      Favorite details: the back and slash pockets and the blue thread which makes this pair so much more appealing to me than the bright contrasting threads. Great pants, don't sleep on them.

                      @elclintor:

                      > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                      • deancleanD
                        deanclean
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                        @max power I got mine the day they went live and they are still stiff. I like that cardboard feeling though. So right about the understated detail. I love that too.

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                        • GilesG
                          Giles
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                          Mine are pretty soft after a few months, but they did set off the alarms as I went through airport security this week…....

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          • AetasA
                            Aetas
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                            @Max:

                            Favorite details: the back and slash pockets and …..

                            Hope that this is the beginning of a new love @Max Power . Your unloved big copper snap.  😃

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                            • Max PowerM
                              Max Power
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                              Haha, I love it on pants, but no on shirts if that makes sense.

                              @elclintor:

                              > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                              • Max PowerM
                                Max Power
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                                Some evo…sorry for the blurry pictures.

                                @elclintor:

                                > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                                • tmgT
                                  tmg
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                                  Given that I own both the standard 816 (navy) and Loom Breakers, I'm curious as to the actual difference between how the two fabrics are dyed - my navy 816 appear quite different to my Loom Breakers, yet they are double indigo, which I thought would make them more like the standard navy 816 in colour?

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                                  • GilesG
                                    Giles
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                                    The standard navy IH-816 are a completely different fabric from the Loom Breakers, they are reactive dyed 17oz navy blue canvas.  If you in fact mean the IH-816DD then that is the same warp and the same weft as the Loom Breakers's but woven on a projectile loom not a shuttle loom, both at 18oz.

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    • deancleanD
                                      deanclean
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                                      I have no idea about all that. Can only say those evo photos are looking good. It's getting cool enough now here to be wearing mine pretty much every day. Nice to see what I can look forward to.

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                                      • tmgT
                                        tmg
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                                        Yes, I was comparing the fabric of the standard 816 to the LB's,  but didn't realise they were that different, just assumed that they were essentially the same in terms of material and the weaving process but went through different dye processes. So how does the double indigo process differ to the reactive dye process? Is it just the permanence of the colour?

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                                        • GilesG
                                          Giles
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                                          The double indigo is rope dyed…In the rope dying process, the indigo oxidises onto the surface of the yarn but does not penetrate the core.  Fading is really just the rubbing off of this oxidised layer and exposing the white core of the yarn.

                                          In reactive dying, the dye is a coloured organic substance (in this case navy), it attaches itself to the yarn by a chemical reaction and forms a covalent bond between the molecule of the dye and the molecule of the yarn.  It is highly stable and you should be able to wash a reactive dyed garment with a white t-shirt with no ill effect.

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                          • tmgT
                                            tmg
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                                            G, thanks for the comprehensive answer, that's exactly what I was looking for, and great to see 'covalent' used in a discussion about pants [emoji1]

                                            I'm seriously considering a pair of these 816DD's as an additional pair of work pants alongside my regular 816's since the fit is so good.

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