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    Chris
    Raw and Unwashed
    Joined: 28 Jun 2010

    That's actually better.

    last edited by 9 Apr 2015, 05:27 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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      Snowy
      Joined: 15 Jun 2012

      @grandmasterben I may end picking up a pair of RJB's when I'm in Tokyo if I can make a fit work. No need to be quiet on the arcs, just tasteful.

      last edited by 9 Apr 2015, 11:31 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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        Jordan23
        Joined: 19 Nov 2011

        Nice one GM!

        Enjoy ya addiction!

        AE

        last edited by 9 Apr 2015, 11:35 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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          mclaincausey
          見習いボス
          Joined: 12 Apr 2013

          Yeah I don't see a problem with that single needle magic. It's a cool detail.

          Think it, be it.

          last edited by 9 Apr 2015, 14:06 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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            Cold Summer
            Joined: 7 May 2011

            Found a photo I took two years ago, you can see the difference in the denim colors:  3005-A on top, 14.5 oz. in the middle, 1005 16 oz. in the back.

            I've always loved the Flat Head back pocket, It's probably my favorite arcuate, along with the arc on some Iron Heart models that has the little triangular shape in it.  To me, the FH arc has a classy, western-inspired look that's in keeping with the general aesthetic of the brand.

            I like the RJB diamonds when they're black leather or just the stitching (like on the D105s I used to have.)  I wish they used natural veg tan leather instead of yellow leather, though, it would look much nicer as it aged over time.  The yellow diamonds just get kind of grungy looking.

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              grandmasterben
              Joined: 27 Aug 2011

              You're the best Kyle! I'm really glad I picked them up now. It looks like the 3005-A just fades to lighter blues instead of white. Which makes sense considering natural indigo is involved.

              Those jeans look so good.

              last edited by 10 Apr 2015, 16:10 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                Cold Summer
                Joined: 7 May 2011

                Compared to the regular denim, which has more of a deep ocean blue sort of fade, the 3005-A denim has a turquoise-sort of overcast.  The texture is also a little different, similar to other natural-indigo dyed jeans I've seen, but to a lesser extent, since it's a mixed dye and not all natural indigo.  That doesn't really show up in this picture, though.

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                  Giles
                  IHUK Crew
                  Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                  @grandmasterben:

                  It looks like the 3005-A just fades to lighter blues instead of white. Which makes sense considering natural indigo is involved.

                  If the warp is rope dyed then the denim will fade to white whether it is natural or synthetic indigo as the indigo does not penetrate to the core of the yarn.

                  Case in point, these are 100% natural indigo with a rope dyed warp:

                  If the warp in hank dyed (which often natural indigo warps are), then the denim will fade to light blue.

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                    grandmasterben
                    Joined: 27 Aug 2011

                    Ah, thanks for the info guys!  i love learning about this stuff.

                    @Cold Summer, do you know the percentage of natural indigo used?  Was it something like 50/50 or less than that?

                    And @Giles, rope dyed or not natural indigo will take longer to fade to white than synthetic, right?

                    It's been a while since my jeans were unworn, the the 3005-a already feel a little different to me.  They seem to be less of the classic stiff-as-fuck loomstate and are not as dark as my 3005 were.  But these are all things that differentiate them, so that's a good thing in my case!

                    I couldn't say why and I would LOVE to be proved wrong, but I just can't see flat head doing something like hank dying.  It doesn't seem to fit in with their aesthetic, somehow.  But then again, I'm also surprised they did 20 oz jeans.

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                      Giles
                      IHUK Crew
                      Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                      It really depends how many dips the yarns got. how long they were in the dip for and how deep the dip is….My IH-666N took ages and ages to show any signs of fading, but once it started, it was like the indigo just gave up and they faded pretty quickly....

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                        grandmasterben
                        Joined: 27 Aug 2011

                        3005-a's presoak.  Really want to throw them in the wash but thought I'd get them hemmed first… I might give in though!

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                          superfuzz
                          Joined: 31 Dec 2012

                          Ben, I dig those straight cuts you've been rocking. I think these will look great after a soak!

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                            FOXY
                            Joined: 14 Mar 2011

                            Soak 'dem!

                            Rocking mine today as well:





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                              grandmasterben
                              Joined: 27 Aug 2011

                              Ah man, those are perfect. Exactly how the 3005 should look!

                              I'm just afraid that once washed I'll be tempted to wear them and it'll slow down my progress of my regular 3005.

                              No clue how some people (looking at you Foxy ;)) don't go crazy from having an amazing denim stash.

                              Thanks sf, straight cuts are where it's at! I think you should look into the 105bsp if you want more rjb denim. Kyle is really skinny and his were perfect!

                              last edited by 20 Apr 2015, 07:44 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                Snowy
                                Joined: 15 Jun 2012

                                Ben, you've already broken the seal, looks like you're now in rotation territory.

                                last edited by 20 Apr 2015, 10:47 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • AnesthetistA
                                  Anesthetist
                                  見習いボス
                                  Joined: 14 May 2011

                                  @Snowy:

                                  Ben, you've already broken the seal, looks like you're now in rotation territory.

                                  Backed!

                                  IG: bluehandsslim

                                  last edited by 20 Apr 2015, 11:58 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                    Finkster
                                    見習いボス
                                    Joined: 14 Mar 2013

                                    Very nice combi - Shirt / Jeans / blue FP's  @FOXY  … Perfect

                                    last edited by 20 Apr 2015, 12:00 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      superfuzz
                                      Joined: 31 Dec 2012

                                      ^ Agreed. Those blue Wescos are looking great!

                                      last edited by 20 Apr 2015, 16:03 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                        Jordan23
                                        Joined: 19 Nov 2011

                                        Love the Blue Look Foxy!

                                        Enjoy ya addiction!

                                        AE

                                        last edited by 20 Apr 2015, 16:49 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          FOXY
                                          Joined: 14 Mar 2011

                                          Thanks, guys!

                                          last edited by 20 Apr 2015, 21:24 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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