The Flat Head
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I know it's not to everyone's liking but I really like the design of those arcs. I think they'll look great with wear.
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So these came in…. Thinking about taking out the inner part of the arc.
what's the big deal? take it out, hahahaha
what's the A on this version stand for?
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I'd take out the entire thing. I think Flat Head arcs are the ugliest in the industry.
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@Chris, sacrilege!
Flat head's domestic arcs are my favorite I've seen, and the overseas ones are fine too. But for some reason I think they're a little much with the infill.
@madmonday, the 3005-A are the 3005 cut (as you'd expect), but made with a mix of natural indigo. I wonder how much natural indigo they used in relation to regular, and I can't wait to see how these look in a few years. I think it's super cool that flat head used a mix because they wanted to retain their classic look… I'm sure they could've used complete natural indigo, but the jean would probably look really different than their normal ones.
I'll probably hold off on messing with the arcs because I'm not planning on wearing these too soon... I actually hate crisp jeans and want a fucked up pair. And my 3005s are getting there
What do you think of these "arcs" chris...
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thanks for explaining, i had no idea.
diamonds on your ass is a thing?
hahahahaha, i always think of my wide load & those arcs would look really, bad on me.
can't believe i only said really once, hahahaha
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That's actually better.
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@grandmasterben I may end picking up a pair of RJB's when I'm in Tokyo if I can make a fit work. No need to be quiet on the arcs, just tasteful.
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Yeah I don't see a problem with that single needle magic. It's a cool detail.
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Found a photo I took two years ago, you can see the difference in the denim colors: 3005-A on top, 14.5 oz. in the middle, 1005 16 oz. in the back.
I've always loved the Flat Head back pocket, It's probably my favorite arcuate, along with the arc on some Iron Heart models that has the little triangular shape in it. To me, the FH arc has a classy, western-inspired look that's in keeping with the general aesthetic of the brand.
I like the RJB diamonds when they're black leather or just the stitching (like on the D105s I used to have.) I wish they used natural veg tan leather instead of yellow leather, though, it would look much nicer as it aged over time. The yellow diamonds just get kind of grungy looking.
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You're the best Kyle! I'm really glad I picked them up now. It looks like the 3005-A just fades to lighter blues instead of white. Which makes sense considering natural indigo is involved.
Those jeans look so good.
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Compared to the regular denim, which has more of a deep ocean blue sort of fade, the 3005-A denim has a turquoise-sort of overcast. The texture is also a little different, similar to other natural-indigo dyed jeans I've seen, but to a lesser extent, since it's a mixed dye and not all natural indigo. That doesn't really show up in this picture, though.
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It looks like the 3005-A just fades to lighter blues instead of white. Which makes sense considering natural indigo is involved.
If the warp is rope dyed then the denim will fade to white whether it is natural or synthetic indigo as the indigo does not penetrate to the core of the yarn.
Case in point, these are 100% natural indigo with a rope dyed warp:
If the warp in hank dyed (which often natural indigo warps are), then the denim will fade to light blue.
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Ah, thanks for the info guys! i love learning about this stuff.
@Cold Summer, do you know the percentage of natural indigo used? Was it something like 50/50 or less than that?
And @Giles, rope dyed or not natural indigo will take longer to fade to white than synthetic, right?
It's been a while since my jeans were unworn, the the 3005-a already feel a little different to me. They seem to be less of the classic stiff-as-fuck loomstate and are not as dark as my 3005 were. But these are all things that differentiate them, so that's a good thing in my case!
I couldn't say why and I would LOVE to be proved wrong, but I just can't see flat head doing something like hank dying. It doesn't seem to fit in with their aesthetic, somehow. But then again, I'm also surprised they did 20 oz jeans.
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3005-a's presoak. Really want to throw them in the wash but thought I'd get them hemmed first… I might give in though!
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Ah man, those are perfect. Exactly how the 3005 should look!
I'm just afraid that once washed I'll be tempted to wear them and it'll slow down my progress of my regular 3005.
No clue how some people (looking at you Foxy ;)) don't go crazy from having an amazing denim stash.
Thanks sf, straight cuts are where it's at! I think you should look into the 105bsp if you want more rjb denim. Kyle is really skinny and his were perfect!
