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Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Collection Preview - Now Live

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    Anesthetist
    見習いボス
    Joined: 14 May 2011

    @grandmasterben:

    The brands are completely different in their goals. Many of flat heads jeans use all cotton stitching, meaning in a way it's supposed to deteriorate.

    I really like the look, but there are definitely more jeans out there that are "more durable."  But more beautiful? I think you'd be hard pressed to find some examples…

    Well said Ben and I couldn't agree more.

    IG: bluehandsslim

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      mclaincausey
      見習いボス
      Joined: 12 Apr 2013

      TFH tends to use more selvedge fabrics in their shirting,  or at least uses selvedge in applications where IH hasn't such as heavy flannels. They have a much wider range and aren't as focused on durable cycle ready goods as IH is.

      Think it, be it.

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        Giles
        IHUK Crew
        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

        I still wholesale Flat Head to some retailers.  So I think I can be fairly objective.

        Both brands are amazingly constructed
        The fits of the tops are very different and suit different body types
        TFH is more concerned with historical accuracy than IH
        The Flat Head range is VAST

        From my point of view
        Haraki is infinitely easier to deal with
        TFH are extraordinarily Japanese (process orientated) in the way they do things
        It is just much easier to work with Iron Heart

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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          grandmasterben
          Joined: 27 Aug 2011

          What do you mean by process oriented?  Like set in their ways?

          Quality wise you're definitely going to be happy with both, but like I said they really do have different objectives.  For instance, you're probably not going to see IH do jacquard t shirts anytime soon, since that's simply not what the brands about.

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            Giles
            IHUK Crew
            Joined: 22 Sept 2009

            There is a way of doing things and that is the way it has to be done.  There is no scope or room for personal initiative.  To a great extent, that is a very Japanese thing.

            G  I need this done like this
            TFH But that is not how we do it
            G But it would be better and we would sell more if we did it like this
            TFH But that is not the way we do it
            G But don't you understand what I am saying?
            TFH Yes, but that is not how we do it

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              Maynard Friedman
              Joined: 3 Jan 2013

              So, to summarise from Giles' perspective:

              IH=pragmatic
              TFH=dogmatic

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                Giles
                IHUK Crew
                Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                I could not possibly comment…...But there is a reason why there is an Iron Heart forum and not a Flat Head forum......

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  grandmasterben
                  Joined: 27 Aug 2011

                  I couldn't help but chuckle reading that flat head conversation.

                  But I don't doubt it might drive you crazy!

                  last edited by 30 Jan 2015, 10:30 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                    Giles
                    IHUK Crew
                    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                    Not any more, I just inwardly giggle…..

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      NorthernVictory
                      Joined: 28 Sept 2014

                      @grandmasterben, @mclaincausey and @Giles you guys are awesome.

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                        private eyes
                        Joined: 23 Sept 2014

                        I own 2 flat head shirts. Literally every time I wear the one, people say " wow that's amazing, the fabric is unreal"

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                          goodrain
                          Joined: 8 Feb 2014

                          @private eyes which two shirts?

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                            private eyes
                            Joined: 23 Sept 2014

                            @goodrain:

                            @private eyes which two shirts?

                            This , and another plaid (or tartan?) insanely amazing fabric .

                            last edited by 3 Feb 2015, 02:11 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                              grandmasterben
                              Joined: 27 Aug 2011

                              Hold up… That's really flat head? I've never seen that shirt before.

                              For some reason, the fh shirt I get the most compliments on is the wabash.

                              Probably get more on my sun surf hula though!

                              last edited by 3 Feb 2015, 02:16 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                private eyes
                                Joined: 23 Sept 2014

                                yeah , the tag says "the flat head winter wear". The sad/weird thing is, I think I bought it off a member of here on ebay. The guy actually had like 12 flat head shirts for sale, all my size, but I only won one auction because I didn't know what size I wore in them. Turns out, the one I won fits perfect ,and no more are popping up on ebay since.  😞

                                last edited by 3 Feb 2015, 02:22 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                  Sugar Mountain
                                  Joined: 18 Jan 2012

                                  Cool photo Private Eyes. There are some stunning fabrics from The Flat Head. Not much in the current collection is grabbing my attention though and their sizing has been messed up this winter too. I just need to cop their chambary workshirt and I'm done!

                                  last edited by 3 Feb 2015, 03:05 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                    Danny RnH
                                    Raw and Unwashed
                                    Joined: 1 Jan 2011

                                    @Sugar:

                                    Cool photo Private Eyes. There are some stunning fabrics from The Flat Head. Not much in the current collection is grabbing my attention though and their sizing has been messed up this winter too. I just need to cop their chambary workshirt and I'm done!

                                    I have specified that all my shirts are made according to previous season's measurements as opposed to the new shorter standard. This will include one of the most beautiful pale blue chambray work shirt I have ever seen coming this spring. Hope all's well out in HKG.

                                    Danny
                                    www.rivetandhide.com

                                    last edited by 2 Mar 2015, 08:51 3 Feb 2015, 08:32 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      grandmasterben
                                      Joined: 27 Aug 2011

                                      It's just the glory park flannels that fit way smaller right? Do the others fit smaller or just shorter? And was this intentional?  I've no clue…

                                      last edited by 3 Feb 2015, 09:10 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                        Danny RnH
                                        Raw and Unwashed
                                        Joined: 1 Jan 2011

                                        @grandmasterben:

                                        It's just the glory park flannels that fit way smaller right? Do the others fit smaller or just shorter? And was this intentional?  I've no clue…

                                        All FH shirts are now made a little shorter in body length

                                        Danny
                                        www.rivetandhide.com

                                        last edited by 3 Feb 2015, 09:13 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          Danny RnH
                                          Raw and Unwashed
                                          Joined: 1 Jan 2011

                                          @Danny:

                                          @grandmasterben:

                                          It's just the glory park flannels that fit way smaller right? Do the others fit smaller or just shorter? And was this intentional?  I've no clue…

                                          All FH shirts are now made a little shorter in body length unless otherwise requested by a retailer.

                                          Danny
                                          www.rivetandhide.com

                                          last edited by 3 Feb 2015, 09:14 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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