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    • NorthernVictoryN
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      Does anyone have an opinion one way or another regarding TFH's constructional quality compared to IH? From what I've seen and read so far, it seems pretty comparable. So as to which one people like more, appears to be a point of fit, weight, and extremely particular things.

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        The brands are completely different in their goals. Many of flat heads jeans use all cotton stitching, meaning in a way it's supposed to deteriorate.

        I really like the look, but there are definitely more jeans out there that are "more durable."  But more beautiful? I think you'd be hard pressed to find some examples…

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        • AnesthetistA
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          @grandmasterben:

          The brands are completely different in their goals. Many of flat heads jeans use all cotton stitching, meaning in a way it's supposed to deteriorate.

          I really like the look, but there are definitely more jeans out there that are "more durable."  But more beautiful? I think you'd be hard pressed to find some examples…

          Well said Ben and I couldn't agree more.

          IG: bluehandsslim

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          • mclaincauseyM
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            TFH tends to use more selvedge fabrics in their shirting,  or at least uses selvedge in applications where IH hasn't such as heavy flannels. They have a much wider range and aren't as focused on durable cycle ready goods as IH is.

            Think it, be it.

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            • GilesG
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              I still wholesale Flat Head to some retailers.  So I think I can be fairly objective.

              Both brands are amazingly constructed
              The fits of the tops are very different and suit different body types
              TFH is more concerned with historical accuracy than IH
              The Flat Head range is VAST

              From my point of view
              Haraki is infinitely easier to deal with
              TFH are extraordinarily Japanese (process orientated) in the way they do things
              It is just much easier to work with Iron Heart

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                What do you mean by process oriented?  Like set in their ways?

                Quality wise you're definitely going to be happy with both, but like I said they really do have different objectives.  For instance, you're probably not going to see IH do jacquard t shirts anytime soon, since that's simply not what the brands about.

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                • GilesG
                  Giles
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                  There is a way of doing things and that is the way it has to be done.  There is no scope or room for personal initiative.  To a great extent, that is a very Japanese thing.

                  G  I need this done like this
                  TFH But that is not how we do it
                  G But it would be better and we would sell more if we did it like this
                  TFH But that is not the way we do it
                  G But don't you understand what I am saying?
                  TFH Yes, but that is not how we do it

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                    So, to summarise from Giles' perspective:

                    IH=pragmatic
                    TFH=dogmatic

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                    • GilesG
                      Giles
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                      I could not possibly comment…...But there is a reason why there is an Iron Heart forum and not a Flat Head forum......

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                        I couldn't help but chuckle reading that flat head conversation.

                        But I don't doubt it might drive you crazy!

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                        • GilesG
                          Giles
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                          Not any more, I just inwardly giggle…..

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          • NorthernVictoryN
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                            @grandmasterben, @mclaincausey and @Giles you guys are awesome.

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                              private eyes
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                              I own 2 flat head shirts. Literally every time I wear the one, people say " wow that's amazing, the fabric is unreal"

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                                @private eyes which two shirts?

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                                  @goodrain:

                                  @private eyes which two shirts?

                                  This , and another plaid (or tartan?) insanely amazing fabric .

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                                    Hold up… That's really flat head? I've never seen that shirt before.

                                    For some reason, the fh shirt I get the most compliments on is the wabash.

                                    Probably get more on my sun surf hula though!

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                                      private eyes
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                                      yeah , the tag says "the flat head winter wear". The sad/weird thing is, I think I bought it off a member of here on ebay. The guy actually had like 12 flat head shirts for sale, all my size, but I only won one auction because I didn't know what size I wore in them. Turns out, the one I won fits perfect ,and no more are popping up on ebay since.  😞

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                                      • Sugar MountainS
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                                        Cool photo Private Eyes. There are some stunning fabrics from The Flat Head. Not much in the current collection is grabbing my attention though and their sizing has been messed up this winter too. I just need to cop their chambary workshirt and I'm done!

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                                          Danny RnH
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                                          @Sugar:

                                          Cool photo Private Eyes. There are some stunning fabrics from The Flat Head. Not much in the current collection is grabbing my attention though and their sizing has been messed up this winter too. I just need to cop their chambary workshirt and I'm done!

                                          I have specified that all my shirts are made according to previous season's measurements as opposed to the new shorter standard. This will include one of the most beautiful pale blue chambray work shirt I have ever seen coming this spring. Hope all's well out in HKG.

                                          Danny
                                          www.rivetandhide.com

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                                            It's just the glory park flannels that fit way smaller right? Do the others fit smaller or just shorter? And was this intentional?  I've no clue…

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