Can we fix it,,,yes we fekkin can,,,its defibrilator time
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I didn't want to say anything else on this, however….
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I spat my dummy out just over a year ago because I didn't like the changes in the dynamic of the forum. Some members were rattling my cage and amusing/ constructive discussions seemed to get shut down quickly, and not necessarily by mods, or were driven into banality by the same people endlessly.
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I came back here because I realised that nothing is solved by me taking my ball and going home, so I tried/ try to be a positive influence here mainly. Sometimes I slip, sometimes I still get my buttons pushed but I try to take a breath before reacting these days.
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I know that some people think less of me these days, some people probably think that I "sold out". What actually happened was that my responsibilities changed, I tried to find work in this industry that I love and to an extent I am still trying, so me being a prick wouldn't help me do that.
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It used to be more fun around here, no denying that, bigger characters bouncing the discussion and fun along at pace. Strong personalities lead to disputes and I don't know the history of them all but I know enough to know that there are two sides to all of this.
I can categorically say that it will never be like it was, that cannot be recreated, but it can improve and it will be different. We all, as a community, have lost our mojo and it is up to us to get it back.
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Great topic jeff… I know what you mean about the fact that the forum used to have a different feel. I also joined in 2011 and always enjoyed seeing a lot of posts from beatle, lando, madmonday, etc...
But honestly this isn't just an ihuk thing. If you take a look on superfuture the conversations are really fucking boring. I honestly have no clue what happened, but it just seems like a lot of people who used to participate a lot just got bored and moved on... You can't forcefully bring people back but i think it's a good idea to say what you really think instead of letting a bunch of goobers dominate waywt, etc... But then again, we shouldn't go purposefully making the forum a mean place and scaring off potential members. It's a tough balance.
About the g "its my party" thing... obviously he means it (or he wouldn't say it) but I also take it as the fact that G is a cheeky bastard and that it's really not a dictatorial thing, but really a simple reminder that g hosts the party so ultimately it's his word that's final. And also imo he doesn't exercise it unjustly... (the gustin thread was shit anyway)
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not really in the mood nor do i really have the time to type a longass post here, but imo @derivative666 @nemesisnow1200 @madmonday and @urbanwoodsman said it-fucking-all…stop the ass kissing and be yourself. have your own opinion about things and most of all don't be afraid to let people know what you really think (about an item, about a fit or about anything else)...all in a respectful kinda way though (as long as you're talking to seul aka "the belgian piglet", the fekker can take it
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Shall I start a specific thread so that this does not get lost in the depths of "Random Rants"?
imo no…i'd just let it role, cuz imo this specific thread doesn't need no moderation!
if you (or anyone else that is able to) really want to though, i'd just move it into the members area so that only the members can read up on this. no other editing needed i'd say! -
I can understand all sides. Overall this forum provides a great wealth of knowledge. I frequent a few other forums and even help run one now. I can understand Mods and Admin letting loose once in a while as it takes more work than it looks like to keep things in order. Still I am comfortable in an atmosphere where everyone from the top on down is respectable.
No everything doesn't have to be PC but there is too much cynical, uncaring attitude going on in the world already.I personally have directed many people to this forum and the IH wares. Some love it and others have felt uncomfortable. I feel that it can be an exclusive club here at times as I see newbie posts with no one responding. Like they aren't there. On the other hand these are isolated incidents. We know you can't please everyone either.
Nothing wrong with taking an outside look at hows things are going in the forum as I am sure everyone is busy trying to keep a business going and live our busy lives. I want to thank everyone who works on the forum for all the hard work. All the cool members too. This is an invaluable place.
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In the main the way this forum has been moderated has not changed from day one. We try to have a really light touch; we delete very very few posts and the only reason we have banned people is that they are offensive and disrespectful of others. Some of you will not like it that others have been banned, but without having a "why we banned a person" thread, you will only ever see the tip of the iceberg. We do not ban people lightly and discuss it it in great depth before we do.
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In the new spirit , I shall proclaim that I cannot bring myself to wear a blue denim jacket , with blue jeans .
Which is why I bought a black denim jacket .Feel free to verbally chop off my head , or make me king !
Let's see where this new disposition goes .
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I totally agree with Ben here. That is no IHUK Forum problem but a problem for many denim forums. MyNudies is completely dead. Sufu has ups and downs. But more downs lately. IndigoRoots is dead. DC4 tried to have a forum but it took a nosedive pretty quick.
IHUK and Denimbro are the ones that still do pretty well in comparison.Maybe (just like MaxPower said) it’s because of the smartphone-era where you just take a short glimpse but don’t comment. Or you use IG where you post pics but you can’t get a fucking discussion going there as you don’t have really a “room” (like a thread) to discuss it.
Reddit seems to be pretty active and big but it’s just so confusing to browse and find threads and get a straight discussion going (or I am just too old).About the honesty of criticism: back in 2010 when I joined the WAYWT-thread of the IHUK was one of the most awful ones and still most of the times there was a lot of ass-kissing and wrongful compliments (I think only the Fedora Lounge can undercut that
). Of course there were also a lot of exceptions with great, great posts where people dressed extremely well. I really think that changed to the better in the last years. Of course everything in my opinion: the WAYWT got way better so there wasn’t a need for harsh and honest criticism lately.
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Forum's getting too PC: kick out all ze bloody Germans and let's carry on.
PS: zis is a joke.
I always enjoy your posts Seul. You stupid bloody Belgian bastid. Trying to strike a balance there.
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in context to Urbs post, a thing to consider, when people describe you 50% of a picture they have seen from their point of view, you will in the end have hardly a idea how the whole thing looks like… no easy calls were ever made... as Giles already said.
also the mods are not here to entertain you guys all the time, all of you have the power to start threads and work on ideas, have a look on the stuff Gav set up and that faded into.... since the people that where up for it, didn't feel like taking care after a few days / weeks....
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I don't have much room to speak up on this topic since I fade in & out of the forum like a fart in the wind half the time. . .
but,
It does seem like everyone could loosen up a bit. We're a bunch of damn weirdos on an internet forum; sometimes you guys need to realize that and let your freak flags fly a bit more.
Also, people could stop bitching and moaning about bitching and moaning in half the threads on here and either throw a strong opinion out or laugh that shit off and move on.
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Also, people could stop bitching and moaning about bitching and moaning in half the threads on here and either throw a strong opinion out or laugh that shit off and move on.
JThis I like!
I'm also not as frequent a poster as I'd wish to be, and have been on here for around 4 years, however one of the main reasons I stuck around was the straightforward, but considered, opinions that people were willing to share and discuss. I hadn't noticed the WAYWT compliment thing as a trend, but recognise that there has been very little constructive criticism.
I'd hazard a guess that there are others similar to me who've been content to take a backseat and that if we could participate more we would help revitalise the forum.
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This is the only forum that I spend much time on at all (although not that much). And I generally like it for the congenial, non-combative vibe. If someone asks for an opinion in the WAYWT thread, then they usually get them. If not then they don't. Seems to work pretty well to me.
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I agree with fuzz ^. One of the things I like about the forum is that it isn't usually a combative or otherwise toxic environment. I like to joke around a bit, but I usually shy away from forums cause everyone's so harsh to each other. Haven't been around long enough to add much to the discussion on now vs. then–but I still like what's happening here. But, I'm a girl, and besides that, a big softy--so I tend to keep it light IRL as well as online.
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I like you sabergirl
(Ya big softy!..)Also: y'all want (+ and -) comment in the WAYWT thread, but truth be told, a lot of you would feel attacked personally and react in either a passive aggressive way, or in an immature way. This is what causes most issues on this board, and the reason the forum's in this state, is cause of the backlash of all that… People tip-toeing around...
