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    DWCxUHR - Denim World Championship Ultra Heavy Raws…

    Heavy Weight Contests & Competitions
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    • Jim1077J
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      Right now (literally) I am wearing the 20oz left hand 633s in a 36, the waist fits perfect post soak. I only sized up due to the unsanforized aspect. Would you recommend these in 36 as well?

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      • GilesG
        Giles
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        Possibly.  We simply do not know what the sizing will be like in any meaningfully accurate way until they get here.  Pre-ordering commits you to a purchase not to purchasing a specific size….

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        • HolGerH
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          Hello,

          I have tried raw BB´s in 38 and pulled them up to my belly button 😞 . They where even more tight then the 36, pre-washed, wich come out great know. Any suggestions? I tried the 666`s in 36 - much too tight in the upper leg.

          Holger

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          • GilesG
            Giles
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            I do not know.  Read the post above….

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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            • HolGerH
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              So you don´t know how much to sew of one size??

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              • GilesG
                Giles
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                The simple answer is no.  If we did, we would.

                Every time we make a new cut out of a new denim we have to sample it, only then do we know with any degree of accuracy how the cut/denim will behave.

                After that we have to tweak the cut to further refine it.

                The added complication of course is that the humidity in the mill that makes the denim and the factory that does the sewing changes how the denim behaves.

                So, once we have the jeans here, we will measure them accurately, do a shrink test on one or two sizes to determine anticipated shrinkage and publish the dats.

                The further further complication is that in broad strokes, Americans get more shrinkage out of a particular denim than Europeans who in turn get more shrinkage than Japanese.

                EDIT.  I have re read your post with a German (Sascha from V&S).  I think I understand more what you are asking.

                @Giles:

                Although these are limited to 125. I will make extra (same cut but different patch), so I have room for manoeuvre (swapping around sizes) when they are delivered. We'll swap the patches if we need to.  This is what we did for the IHxBxHCx25oz

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                • ChrisC
                  Chris
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                  Well now that's interesting.  Any ideas why there are different degrees of shrinkage based on geography?

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                  • GilesG
                    Giles
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                    I think that it is a function of the aggressiveness or otherwise of the washing machines.  Tom always sends me stuff to do shrink tests on because she knows I will get more than her…

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                    • SeulS
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                      Yeah I was guessing it'd be that. Still: most machines are produced in the same part of the world, no?.. Maybe they have three lines…

                      "TLC" for Japan
                      "Vigorous but Gentle" for the €uros
                      and "Brutal and Brainless" for the land of Michael Bay...

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                      • mclaincauseyM
                        mclaincausey
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                        Couldn't it just be as simple as water temperature in the machines? Drying habits and temp too maybe.

                        Think it, be it.

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                        • GilesG
                          Giles
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                          It may be, but Americans tend to trash the white buttons we put on some of our workshirts, no other nation manages to do that….

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          • summ3rhaysS
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                            I have to admit I'm jealous of the temp and spin settings on the nonUS machines I've seen.

                            The spin on mine is high, higher and peel the fucker off with a spatula.

                            IG: summ3rhays & Indigobleed

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                            • spitfiredealerS
                              spitfiredealer
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                              Mine actually has a jean setting on it. Can't say I have ever used it but nice to know it's there.

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                              • KrisBK
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                                how is the rise on bb's compared to 634's?

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                                  @summ3rhays:

                                  I have to admit I'm jealous of the temp and spin settings on the nonUS machines I've seen.

                                  The spin on mine is high, higher and peel the fucker off with a spatula.

                                  Lol

                                  Same. Surprisingly, even after peeling it off, I've never had weird lines or anything. I honestly laugh when people say take it out before the spin cycle. That's 90% of what my machine does…

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                                  • GilesG
                                    Giles
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                                    @KrisB:

                                    how is the rise on bb's compared to 634's?

                                    From the webpage:

                                    • Slightly higher rise and more fitted top section than the IH-634S

                                    But all measurements are under the Sizing" tab

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    • cadenceC
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                                      Ordered a 32 since it matches my 33 Beatle Busters. I'm really excited but kind of sad I won't be able to spend more time with my current pair once the comp starts.

                                      My DWC contestant forum page

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                                      • BroarkB
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                                        So how warm / breathable is this denim?
                                        From everything I've read it's not very breathable.
                                        I've got the 634S-B and the grey weft loomstate 633S from SelfEdge.
                                        I can wear those most of the year here, aside from the Texas summers.
                                        But if this denim is much less breathable than the other IH pairs I already have I might have to skip out.

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                                        • Max PowerM
                                          Max Power
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                                          It is way less breathable as the 21 oz.  Though I personally already find these too warm in the summer. So it depends on your Preference.

                                          @elclintor:

                                          > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                                            From everything I've read this denim is not very breathable at all. Sorry Broark.

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