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    • steelworkerS
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      Another consideration-I never woke up in a puddle of  my own vomit after drinking too much coffee.

      Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
      Well, I have others.

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      • Megatron1505M
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        Sugar, I said in the West as I was speaking specifically about the West. In places like Indonesia coffee has a totally different cultural significance.

        I have no doubt that Japan and HK have embraced the western approach to coffee enjoyment with the same fervour as they have many other things enjoyed in the west (and vice versa).

        No one will ever convince me that paying £5 for a cup of gourmet coffee is reasonable though. Different people, different poisons/ passions.

        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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        • Sugar MountainS
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          I missed the ''west'' bit…

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          • mclaincauseyM
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            @Megatron1505:

            The superfluous modern enjoyment of coffee in much of the west is a very "middle class white" (mcw) thing to obsess and gush over, in the same bracket as Coldplay, designer furniture and watching films by Wes Anderson.

            Personally I'm too much of a low life scum bag with dirt under my fingernails to draw much pleasure from any of that. Beer, footie a game of darts and a fight on Friday night after kicking out time keeps me sweet  😉

            Suuuuuure, says the guy with jeans that cost several hundred dollars… 😃

            Think it, be it.

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              @Megatron1505:

              Coffee is a tool, nothing but a blunt instrument. People who wax lyrical about it should drink more beer.

              I fixed it for you 🙂

              Beer is a tool, nothing but a blunt instrument. People who wax lyrical about it should drink more coffee.

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                Seriously tho, both do something to the nervous system, some like the effect of 1 more than the other. Some like both, some like neither.

                On a serious note my coffee habit is like a monkey on my back. I eat ground, dry coffee if I'm running late and need a hit. Literally take a hand full of coffee and eat it. That's when you know it's time to double down!

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                • hecticH
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                  @Megatron1505 not sure if you are baiting - surely its about teasing out the elements of quality in any medium/piece of culture.

                  Coldplay - stupid tape on his fingers and he dances like Adam Sandler needing a poo but Yellow was really great when it broke.

                  Designer furniture - sure you can burn money on gauche crap but an Eames chair is an amazing, enduring design.

                  Wes Anderson - yeah so he's kinda fey but who wasn't rooting for Mr Fox - dude's got heart.

                  Coffee - Starbucks can kiss my arse, they have an anodyne, bad tasting product but producing a perfect espresso at home after you have rebuilt your coffee machine is rewarding and delicious (and doesn't cost £5)

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                  • Megatron1505M
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                    Merely expressing an unpopular opinion  😉

                    Enjoy your cuppa Joe fellas  🙂

                    Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                    • gbougardG
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                      @Megatron1505:

                      The superfluous modern enjoyment of coffee in much of the west is a very "middle class white" (mcw) thing to obsess and gush over, in the same bracket as Coldplay, designer furniture and watching films by Wes Anderson.

                      You've been to Italy?

                      Sly Dunbar bigs up IH on YT
                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t2OM738mKY
                      Sly & Robbie A Run Tings
                      Gregory Isaacs Liveth 4 I-ver

                      Renault: What in heaven’s name brought you to Casablanca?
                      Rick: My health. I came to Casablanca for the waters.
                      Renault: The waters? What waters? We’re in the desert.
                      Ric

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                      • Megatron1505M
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                        Also, as the number of responses to my post suggests, I'm the one being baited  😉

                        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                        • gbougardG
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                          @gbougard:

                          @Megatron1505:

                          The superfluous modern enjoyment of coffee in much of the west is a very "middle class white" (mcw) thing to obsess and gush over, in the same bracket as Coldplay, designer furniture and watching films by Wes Anderson.

                          You've been to Italy?

                          Or Jamaica?

                          Sly Dunbar bigs up IH on YT
                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t2OM738mKY
                          Sly & Robbie A Run Tings
                          Gregory Isaacs Liveth 4 I-ver

                          Renault: What in heaven’s name brought you to Casablanca?
                          Rick: My health. I came to Casablanca for the waters.
                          Renault: The waters? What waters? We’re in the desert.
                          Ric

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                          • ChrisC
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                            @Megatron1505:

                            …in the same bracket as Coldplay, designer furniture and watching films by Wes Anderson.

                            My dislike of coffee is surpassed by my dislike of Coldplay (though I concede that Yellow was a good song) and my mystification at the love of Wes Anderson movies.

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                            • mclaincauseyM
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                              Coldplay makes me angry, but not as angry as Oasis.

                              Think it, be it.

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                              • pillowPANTSP
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                                Rather hear Oasis anyday then the slit my wrist, cry myself to sleep, please feel bad for me garbage that is Coldplay

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                                  Shit music doesn't make me angry any more. Over that annoyance a long time ago eschewing as I do commercial radio and X factor type shows.

                                  Coffee however is a different matter. Different beans, different brewing processes different tastes. Big coffee drinker but trotting out the old middle class gasbagger line is playing up to a tired stereotype. Tea is just as knob centric these days and while there may be an element of hijacking it's ubiquitousness as a drink of the common man, that could be said about anything. Denim even!

                                  "Better to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission"

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                                  • mclaincauseyM
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                                    While we're on the topic of coffee, Dunkin Donuts' coffee is offensive to my palate. I cannot stand it, the only thing worse is the dirt water they serve at work.

                                    Think it, be it.

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                                    • ChrisC
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                                      @pillowPANTS:

                                      Rather hear Oasis anyday then the slit my wrist, cry myself to sleep, please feel bad for me garbage that is Coldplay

                                      Wonderwall makes me want to slit my wrists.  What a truly odious song.

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                                      • Megatron1505M
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                                        Whilst researching something unrelated a Google search brought up a Rawr denim article about Gustin jeans, the comments from the owners of these jeans are their bashing of Japanese denim brands, plus reading more into Gustins marketing has made me really dislike this brand immensely.

                                        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                        • 4c4
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                                          @Megatron1505:

                                          Whilst researching something unrelated a Google search brought up a Rawr denim article about Gustin jeans, the comments from the owners of these jeans random internet idiots are their bashing of Japanese denim brands, plus reading more into Gustins marketing has made me really dislike this brand immensely.

                                          This article?
                                          http://www.rawrdenim.com/2013/01/gustin-hand-crafted-crowd-sourced-delivered-to-you-denim/

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                                          • Megatron1505M
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                                            No, this one.

                                            http://www.rawrdenim.com/2014/04/denim-darwinism-love-cheap-raws/

                                            And as the people all own Gustin, all use the same defence of attacking people wearing more expensive Japanese denim, and all obviously feel quite protective as they backed the crowd source I think that there is commonality to the group rather than randomness. I wouldn't call them idiots either, merely deluded if they really believe what they are saying.

                                            Making the claim of "Redefining premium menswear, starting with denim", and making jeans which are "as good as any other", whilst rocking the always made in the USA" vibe hard is fine. However if it then seems that the jeans which are apparently "artisan quality" are made in sewing shops staffed by migrant workers earning minimum wage then it doesn't make them a a formidable rival to the established quality denim brands, it makes them American Apparel.

                                            Their fans on these articles seem to want to ignore the differences between their jeans and the higher end jeans by blanket insults and claiming that the details enjoyed by others just don't matter. Well, they seem to matter enough for them to complain about them.

                                            Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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