IHSH-08 16oz Super Black Western Shirt

[Giles]

TWE, that is a good observation.  The superblack (all versions) is designed to leach out black from the core to the outside of the threads with subsequent washes…G

[that_was_easy]

Yea, the more I learn about this fabric the more I realize it has some pretty technical elements.  I seriously love shit that has this kind of narrative and personality. Hell, half the reason I adore IH is for their creation of fabrics like this, that beautifully combine the simple function of heritage and advanced function of our more technically minded era.

I can't wait for the IHSH-16SS or the SB winter it'll bring.  Here come the anticipation tremors!

Lol, thanks for reading it Seul.  I'm just happy it was more or less coherent. 

[Beatle]

just handwash, what's wrong with that

[that_was_easy]

X-posting fun:

That's really interesting G.  I don't even think I can imagine what kind of effect that'll produce.  Love this denim more and more!

[Seul]

@Beatle:

just handwash, what's wrong with that

Lesson learned, Beats… I just thought it'd survive a machinewash at delicate settings...

Either way: this is all good info for future IHSH-08 owners!..

[Splattered]

Good to know… i havent washed any of my IH stuff yet.

What do you guys use for detergent? That Dr Bronner's stuff?

Would the regular old "free" (no dye/perfume) liquid detergents be ok to use in a hand washing?

[hectic]

@Seul:

@Beatle:

just handwash, what's wrong with that

Lesson learned, Beats… I just thought it'd survive a machinewash at delicate settings...

So did I Seul, it's not an unreasonable assumption, especially if the user is relatively inexperienced with bespoke denim.

[Seul]

@Splattered:

Good to know… i havent washed any of my IH stuff yet.

What do you guys use for detergent? That Dr Bronner's stuff?

Would the regular old "free" (no dye/perfume) liquid detergents be ok to use in a hand washing?

For a hand wash I use Dr. Bonners - the sample packs are perfect for 1 wash… Machinewash I use anything natural... All in all I dislike using anything with chemicals...

hectic: yeah, it's kinda weird... The better the quality/ material, the less it's suitable for a (carefully executed) machinewash?.. It's just that the shirt got so dusty, mainly cause I never wear anything underneath, that I just felt a quick machinewash would take care of things...

[DrPat]

I put my IHSH-08 in the washing machine without soap before wearing it the first time and have washed it once since then.  I did not see any marking or fading.  I wash all my denim and shirts in the machine on the hand-wash or delicate cycle and have never seen such fading on any of them.  However, I did see similar marks when I stuffed all of my sofa cushion covers into the machine and there wasn't enough room for them to rinse properly.  I had to re-rinse them several times and even scratch some of the the soap stains with my finger nails to remove them.

Was your natural soap shavings from a bar or a liquid?  I would think that shavings or soap flakes would be harder to remove from the clothing, especially if they didn't dissolve completely.

A few other suggestions:

1.  You may be using too much detergent.  Especially if you are washing only the one shirt.  Try washing with a quarter of the amount recommended for a full load.

2.  There may be left over soap residue in your washing machine.  Run it empty on the long and hot cycle a few times to try to get the extra soap out.  If you see soap bubbles forming when you don't add any detergent, this indicates that residue is present.

3.  For denim in general and especially super-black denim use detergent without optical brighteners.  I believe Woolite black does not have them.  I usually use vegetable soap (Savon de Marseilles) to wash my denim.  You can read about the chemistry of brighteners here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_brightener

[Seul]

Thanks for all the info, DrPat!..

Shirt still looks the same - wavey pattern of streaks all over it… Discolouring on collar...

Hard to take a decent pic that shows it... Direct link for bigger pic:

http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv77/Seul_Contre_Tous/6bb34585-1.jpg

[Seul]

Still my fav stubborn shirt… Don't let any of my posts deter you from buying one!.. Just handwash!.. 

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[DrPat]

Was it concluded whether the marks were from soap or fading?

[Seul]

Light marks still there - but nothing like it was after the first wash… You can actually see some of the streaks in the last pic... It's not something that bothers me though, as I know it's not actually dirty...

[Beatle]

darn, Sonny rocks this well

[LandoCal126 0]

I think it is funny that his name is Sonny as well. Hey, what jeans are these ad in the IHW-01 flicks?

[ALEX1976]

@Beatle:

darn, Sonny rocks this well

very very cool guy!!!!
YES!

[gbougard]

Question for Giles:

I dont see the IHSH-08 on the IH site. Does that mean it is out of stock? And if it is, is it the norm for the website to "eliminate" items that are out of stock?

If I missed it, dont hesitate to send me a (denim, hopefully) dunce hat!!!

Thank you

[Beatle]

I believe they are indeed out of stock - but Giles will tell you more in a sec..when the new run arrives , they will be up..

[Giles]

There are none at all in inventory at the momemt.  They are being made and will probably leave Japan this week.  If I had one here to photograph, there would be a page on the site (albeit with zeroes against every size), but I aint so there aint.

Expect a page to be up next week, but expect some sizes to sell out within minutes.  Giles

[Beatle]

lol..was wearing mine as well - now drying..rain and rain and nothing but rain