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    • ChrisC
      Chris
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      I believe that humans will eventually evolve past that extraneous fifth toe.

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      • GilesG
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        I try to lead by example… 😉

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        • Megatron1505M
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          @specmvl:

          Ok, just another opinion: Tbh I don´t really buy into their anatomical derivation of the arch ease. It´a comfy and well (hand-)built boot and I don´t doubt that its design helps people being on their feet for a large amount of time. Still, designed by millions of years of evolution the natural standing and walking position of feet is barefeet and flat, not on heels. Whites offer their boots in three different heel-heights, why would they do so if two of them have detrimental effects on their design? Don´t overthink it and go for the one you like best. If you are looking for the essential Whites look it is the Standard heel.

          Nevertheless, for people with a high instep (like me) the Arch Ease system gives a comfort like no other, I have read the opposite from people with flat feet. The height of the instep dictates how pressure is distributed over the sole of the foot, and where it is distributed, it is not enough to say that millions of years of evolution dictates the natural standing position as everyone stands differently, distributes their weight differently, and has a variance of instep height. The point would be sound if everyones feet were the same, but in fact evolution dictates the exact opposite.

          Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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          • Megatron1505M
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            Also, just to add, that the lowered heel should only have a detrimental effect if you require the arch ease to assist your instep and distribute your weight, if you do not and find the comfort acceptable and the aesthetic more appealing then have at it.

            Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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            • specmvlS
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              My argument was more pointed at White´s assumption that the high heel reflects a more natural state of the foot because it looks the same hanging down relaxed.
              Of course all feet are different as nobody genetically is the same but they all share the same constructional adaption to be used barefoot. Nearly all problems people have with their feet come from wearing shoes since childhood (resulting in deformations, strains on or contractions of filaments, muscular disbalances etc) not of "having" bad feet. And good shoes can certainly help in that situation but imho there is nothing like a supernatural foot position.

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              • GilesG
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                @specmvl:

                Of course all feet are different

                Hmmmmmmm, are they? 😃 😃 😃 😃

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                • BluegrassB
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                  I haven't tried a std heel, but the difference is only 1/4" - and I love the arch-ease with my relatively high instep - it's interesting, my feet ached in the arches when i first got my White's, but after the 2nd day that achey feeling went away and now they are my most comfortable boots.  I love the pronounced arch in white's, for me it's the best thing ever…

                  But speaking of barefoot being the natural state i can't disagree with that - anyone seen this show about the barefoot survivalist, Cody Lundin?  http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-shows/dual-survival/bios This dude never wears shoes - hmmmmm, I wonder what he spends his extra cash on??

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                  • 4c4
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                    @specmvl:

                    Still, designed by millions of years of evolution the natural standing and walking position of feet is barefeet and flat, not on heels.

                    Where evolution falls short technology steps in… 😉

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                    • S
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                      I am intrigued in these boots never have heard of them before i stumbled across this thread. I am very interested in getting a pair but I am extremelly overwhelmed by all of the options as this is all new to me. Normally id go try a boot on and just buy it always generic (timberland, redwing, irish setter, etc…) So as a Noob to this world and grade of boot How on earth do i decide what is right for me?? (besides color and hardware) anyone out there well seasoned care to do an "idiots Guide" to White's boots ? lol. Also i live in the NY metro area is there any brick and morter locations where i might be able to look, feel and possibly try on different options?

                      Thanks to all and any assistance and HAPPY NEW YEAR

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                      • Bretro_B
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                        Commit yourself to a psych ward, I mean commit yourself to countless hours on forum boards such as this and goole image searches for key words like "white's boots". Then plop down your first four bills on a pair from Baker's convincing yourself and significant other that one pair is all you'll ever need. Then let the seed of boot obsession grow. Before you know it, you'll be bobafide!

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                        • 4c4
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                          Site Locator: http://www.whitesboots.com/index.php?dispatch=pages.view&page_id=23

                          Custom Options: http://www.bakershoe.com/attribute-details.cfm/brand/whites-boots/

                          Smoke jumper=looser fitting work boot
                          Semi-dress=casual/dress utility boot
                          Bounty hunter=smoke jumper upper and semi-dress lower (Last)

                          also what generally will you use the boots for?

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                          • 4c4
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                            @Bretro_:

                            Commit yourself to a psych ward, I mean commit yourself to countless hours on forum boards such as this and goole image searches for key words like "white's boots". Then plop down your first four bills on a pair from Baker's convincing yourself and significant other that one pair is all you'll ever need. Then let the seed of boot obsession grow. Before you know it, you'll be bobafide!

                            +1 😉

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                            • ChrisC
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                              @skaterpunk437:

                              i live in the NY metro area is there any brick and morter locations where i might be able to look, feel and possibly try on different options?

                              Well, according to the White's Boots website, you've got 3 possibilities in Manhattan and one in Brooklyn:
                              Kinway Shoes (20 W. 8th St.)
                              Grahame Fowler (138 W. 10th St.)
                              Tani (131 W. 72nd St.)
                              Rugged Sole (77 Atlantic Ave.)

                              I'm not familiar with any of them, and the White's website doesn't strike me as the most scrupulously updated one ever, so the info may not be accurate, but it's worth a shot to check them out.

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                              • BluegrassB
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                                @4c:

                                @Bretro_:

                                Commit yourself to a psych ward, I mean commit yourself to countless hours on forum boards such as this and goole image searches for key words like "white's boots". Then plop down your first four bills on a pair from Baker's convincing yourself and significant other that one pair is all you'll ever need. Then let the seed of boot obsession grow. Before you know it, you'll be bobafide!

                                +1 😉

                                +2, oh yeah this sounds very familiar!

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                                • tigerpacT
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                                  I've been to two of the places in the city that have whites:

                                  Grahame Fowler (138 W. 10th St.) Amazing store, should check it out regardless of the Whites.  They have semi-dress in dress brown, maybe one other build.  Had the sizes I wanted to try on.

                                  Tani (131 W. 72nd St.) Terrible store with useless staff - had probably two builds of whites but none to try on in 9.5, 10, or 10.5 in any width.  Staff could care less.

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                                  • BluegrassB
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                                    For your viewing pleasure, here is link to a really beautiful pair of well-worn black bullhide x black smooth 6" smoke jumpers - you have to scroll down to the bottom of the page, to the post dated 6/1/2012. http://www.life-time-gear.com/search?updated-max=2012-06-07T10:09:00%2B02:00&max-results=7&start=340&by-date=false

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                                      @tigerpac:

                                      I've been to two of the places in the city that have whites:

                                      Grahame Fowler (138 W. 10th St.) Amazing store, should check it out regardless of the Whites.  They have semi-dress in dress brown, maybe one other build.  Had the sizes I wanted to try on.

                                      Tani (131 W. 72nd St.) Terrible store with useless staff - had probably two builds of whites but none to try on in 9.5, 10, or 10.5 in any width.  Staff could care less.

                                      Thanks a lot i will check out 10th st I work not far from there

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                                      • Jord666J
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                                        Can anybody help me with what they assume to be the spec on these so that I could place an order, I realise it's probably a difficult question given the picture but any help would be appreciated 🙂

                                        PS the colour is hard to make out but I'd like em in black 🙂

                                        Thanks again

                                        GO HEAVY OR GO HOME

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                                        • BluegrassB
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                                          hmmmmmm I will give a shot… using Baker's as a guide

                                          Custom Semi-Dress by White's Boots
                                          Toe vamp and upper (shaft) leather - choose black dress, black smooth or black cxl, your choice
                                          Leather liner - can't tell
                                          Edge - brown
                                          Midsole - double
                                          Sole - looks like leather, but you could do a vibram 700 sole for better traction
                                          Last - standard
                                          Sole trim - standard
                                          Heel base - standard
                                          Celastic toe box - single
                                          Toe cap - no thanks
                                          Hardware - antique eyes, or antique eyes & hooks (can't tell)
                                          Pull Loops - can't tell, but it's a matter of preference
                                          Heel lifts - standard
                                          Toe bug stitching - no thanks

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                                          • Jord666J
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                                            Bluegrass, I can't thank you enough for that, I really appreciate you taking the time to do that for me!

                                            GO HEAVY OR GO HOME

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