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    • Megatron1505M
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      I agree David, I was thinking more practically that a lowered heel kind of negates the arch ease system by distributing pressure differently across the foot. Aesthetically though absolutely each to their own.

      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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        Absolutely Gav would be interested about the influence on the ease arch on the lowered heel too

        Cheers,
        David

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        • Bretro_B
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          Good point, Mega.

          I'd be very interested to hear more from owners of both heel heights as I only have experience with the standard ones.

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          • Megatron1505M
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            I guess it depends on how important the arch eases to you, I have a very high instep so it's extremely important to me.

            Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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            • specmvlS
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              @Bretro_:

              I hear ya, tigerpac. Thx for your two cents. I too love whites, and want to capture the essence of em. By no means am I trying to make these into Trickers or Alden's 😉 that said, the soft toe really changes the look IMO and im just not totally sure if the regular heel hight would look right…

              Ok, just another opinion: Tbh I don´t really buy into their anatomical derivation of the arch ease. It´a comfy and well (hand-)built boot and I don´t doubt that its design helps people being on their feet for a large amount of time. Still, designed by millions of years of evolution the natural standing and walking position of feet is barefeet and flat, not on heels. Whites offer their boots in three different heel-heights, why would they do so if two of them have detrimental effects on their design? Don´t overthink it and go for the one you like best. If you are looking for the essential Whites look it is the Standard heel.

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              • GilesG
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                I was chatting to someone about the evolution of the human form yesterday.  And how we had evolved to perfection, then I realised we'd got a bloody appendix…..

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                • ChrisC
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                  I believe that humans will eventually evolve past that extraneous fifth toe.

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                  • GilesG
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                    I try to lead by example… 😉

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                    • Megatron1505M
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                      @specmvl:

                      Ok, just another opinion: Tbh I don´t really buy into their anatomical derivation of the arch ease. It´a comfy and well (hand-)built boot and I don´t doubt that its design helps people being on their feet for a large amount of time. Still, designed by millions of years of evolution the natural standing and walking position of feet is barefeet and flat, not on heels. Whites offer their boots in three different heel-heights, why would they do so if two of them have detrimental effects on their design? Don´t overthink it and go for the one you like best. If you are looking for the essential Whites look it is the Standard heel.

                      Nevertheless, for people with a high instep (like me) the Arch Ease system gives a comfort like no other, I have read the opposite from people with flat feet. The height of the instep dictates how pressure is distributed over the sole of the foot, and where it is distributed, it is not enough to say that millions of years of evolution dictates the natural standing position as everyone stands differently, distributes their weight differently, and has a variance of instep height. The point would be sound if everyones feet were the same, but in fact evolution dictates the exact opposite.

                      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                      • Megatron1505M
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                        Also, just to add, that the lowered heel should only have a detrimental effect if you require the arch ease to assist your instep and distribute your weight, if you do not and find the comfort acceptable and the aesthetic more appealing then have at it.

                        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                        • specmvlS
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                          My argument was more pointed at White´s assumption that the high heel reflects a more natural state of the foot because it looks the same hanging down relaxed.
                          Of course all feet are different as nobody genetically is the same but they all share the same constructional adaption to be used barefoot. Nearly all problems people have with their feet come from wearing shoes since childhood (resulting in deformations, strains on or contractions of filaments, muscular disbalances etc) not of "having" bad feet. And good shoes can certainly help in that situation but imho there is nothing like a supernatural foot position.

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                          • GilesG
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                            @specmvl:

                            Of course all feet are different

                            Hmmmmmmm, are they? 😃 😃 😃 😃

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            • BluegrassB
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                              I haven't tried a std heel, but the difference is only 1/4" - and I love the arch-ease with my relatively high instep - it's interesting, my feet ached in the arches when i first got my White's, but after the 2nd day that achey feeling went away and now they are my most comfortable boots.  I love the pronounced arch in white's, for me it's the best thing ever…

                              But speaking of barefoot being the natural state i can't disagree with that - anyone seen this show about the barefoot survivalist, Cody Lundin?  http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-shows/dual-survival/bios This dude never wears shoes - hmmmmm, I wonder what he spends his extra cash on??

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                              • 4c4
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                                @specmvl:

                                Still, designed by millions of years of evolution the natural standing and walking position of feet is barefeet and flat, not on heels.

                                Where evolution falls short technology steps in… 😉

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                                  I am intrigued in these boots never have heard of them before i stumbled across this thread. I am very interested in getting a pair but I am extremelly overwhelmed by all of the options as this is all new to me. Normally id go try a boot on and just buy it always generic (timberland, redwing, irish setter, etc…) So as a Noob to this world and grade of boot How on earth do i decide what is right for me?? (besides color and hardware) anyone out there well seasoned care to do an "idiots Guide" to White's boots ? lol. Also i live in the NY metro area is there any brick and morter locations where i might be able to look, feel and possibly try on different options?

                                  Thanks to all and any assistance and HAPPY NEW YEAR

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                                  • Bretro_B
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                                    Commit yourself to a psych ward, I mean commit yourself to countless hours on forum boards such as this and goole image searches for key words like "white's boots". Then plop down your first four bills on a pair from Baker's convincing yourself and significant other that one pair is all you'll ever need. Then let the seed of boot obsession grow. Before you know it, you'll be bobafide!

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                                      Site Locator: http://www.whitesboots.com/index.php?dispatch=pages.view&page_id=23

                                      Custom Options: http://www.bakershoe.com/attribute-details.cfm/brand/whites-boots/

                                      Smoke jumper=looser fitting work boot
                                      Semi-dress=casual/dress utility boot
                                      Bounty hunter=smoke jumper upper and semi-dress lower (Last)

                                      also what generally will you use the boots for?

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                                      • 4c4
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                                        @Bretro_:

                                        Commit yourself to a psych ward, I mean commit yourself to countless hours on forum boards such as this and goole image searches for key words like "white's boots". Then plop down your first four bills on a pair from Baker's convincing yourself and significant other that one pair is all you'll ever need. Then let the seed of boot obsession grow. Before you know it, you'll be bobafide!

                                        +1 😉

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                                        • ChrisC
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                                          @skaterpunk437:

                                          i live in the NY metro area is there any brick and morter locations where i might be able to look, feel and possibly try on different options?

                                          Well, according to the White's Boots website, you've got 3 possibilities in Manhattan and one in Brooklyn:
                                          Kinway Shoes (20 W. 8th St.)
                                          Grahame Fowler (138 W. 10th St.)
                                          Tani (131 W. 72nd St.)
                                          Rugged Sole (77 Atlantic Ave.)

                                          I'm not familiar with any of them, and the White's website doesn't strike me as the most scrupulously updated one ever, so the info may not be accurate, but it's worth a shot to check them out.

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                                          • BluegrassB
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                                            @4c:

                                            @Bretro_:

                                            Commit yourself to a psych ward, I mean commit yourself to countless hours on forum boards such as this and goole image searches for key words like "white's boots". Then plop down your first four bills on a pair from Baker's convincing yourself and significant other that one pair is all you'll ever need. Then let the seed of boot obsession grow. Before you know it, you'll be bobafide!

                                            +1 😉

                                            +2, oh yeah this sounds very familiar!

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